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71 killed in Israeli strike on Gaza humanitarian zone (www.bbc.co.uk)

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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Israeli military had designated this area as a safe zone, urging Palestinians to seek shelter there.

I feel sick. I hope all Israeli war criminals will end up in prison, starting with Netanyahu.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Israel is a terrorist Nazi extremist group.

By the way how many times has israel now bombed a place and claimed they killed Deif while bombing Palestinian civilians?

Israeli intelligence sources believe that Deif was likely killed in an August 19, 2014, airstrike in Gaza City during Operation Protective Edge, a claim that Hamas has repeatedly denied, although Gaza-based officials have confirmed the deaths of Deif’s wife and two of his children in the strike.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 month ago

I don't want to live in a world where this is ok and everyone just turns a blind eye.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Theres too many people that watch on with glee.

[-] CluckN@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

Why would they have Glee on that show went off the air back in 2015

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 month ago

Zionist Israel is Nazi Germany.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

I see Israel is working hard to achieve that peace deal /s

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Is bombing a dense refugee camp cheaper than operating a death camp? And does the Remote Killing aspect of it change the cost equation?

Can someone do the math?

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Probably. It saves them the cost of barbed wire and crematoriums. Plus, they are able to keep pretending Holocaust was a one off and they are definitely not commiting one now.....

Funny how the descendants of victims turned into perpetrators, eh?

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 month ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

At least 71 Palestinians have been killed in an Israeli air strike that hit a densely populated area of displaced people in the al-Mawasi area of Khan Younis in Gaza, the Hamas-run health ministry says.The Israeli military had designated this area as a safe zone, urging Palestinians to seek shelter there.More than 289 people were injured in the strike, according to the health ministry's statement.The Israeli military said it is looking into the incident.

Israeli media is reporting that senior Hamas leader Mohammed Deif was a target of the attack.

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will hold security talks through the day, his office said according to Reuters.

An eyewitness told the BBC that the site of the strike looked like an "earthquake" had hit, and videos from the area show smouldering wreckage and bloodied casualties being loaded onto stretchers.

People can be seen trying desperately to pick through the rubble of a large crater with their hands.Footage from the nearby Kuwait field hospital revealed chaos with patients being treated on the floor.A Hamas official, cited by Reuters, called the attack a “grave escalation” that showed Israel was not interested in reaching a ceasefire agreement.

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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

🤦

[+] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -44 points 1 month ago

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/13/world/israel-gaza-war-hamas/the-gaza-authorities-report-at-least-two-strikes-in-the-khan-younis-region

Two Israeli officials said that the military had targeted Mr. Deif while he was inside a fenced Hamas-run compound that was not used as a camp for displaced people.

So all the ones killed are Hamas combatants.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

That isn’t really what the rest of article you linked to says. The next two paragraphs are about video evidence that partially (and maybe wholly) contradicts the IDF statement you quoted:

Video filmed at the scene of the strike appeared to corroborate parts of the military’s statement but not others.

Filmed by Mustafa Abutaha, a professor of English, the footage showed a large crater in a tree-lined plot of land close to a four-story residential building. A high wall separated part of the plot from the road, suggesting that it was an enclosed compound. But as he filmed the video, Mr. Abutaha said the plot had housed displaced people. Shortly afterward, a second man passed in front of the camera, holding a motionless child.

The NY Times isn’t reporting from the ground. They have a statement from the IDF and video footage contradicting at least part of the IDF’s story.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago

The NY Times isn’t reporting from the ground.

The fact that there are no reporters allowed on the ground is all you need to know about the IDF and its intentions.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Apart from IDF lying as usual 🙄

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So all the ones killed are Hamas combatants.

Ah yeah, just like they bombed the refugee camps and everything else they did?

Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center. Were all these people who got humiliated from Hamas?
Death toll in Israeli attack on displaced Palestinians in Rafah rises to 45.

Were all these people in Rafah who were bombed and murdered ''Hamas''? Was the child who got beheaded a Hamas member? The video is still somewhere on Instagram but Instagram is restricting all accounts with it.

Israeli forces’ systemic denial of fair trial rights to Palestinian child prisoners amounts to arbitrary detention.

Where are these people ''Hamas''?

Israel prevents hundreds of worshippers from entering Al-Aqsa on first night of Ramadan.

Or these people that just wanted to go to Al-Aqsa for their religion.

Israel's PM Netanyahu 'proud' of preventing establishment of a Palestinian state.

Not to forget about their PM being proud of this.

Far-right minister says nuking Gaza an option, PM suspends him from cabinet meetings.

But it is okay to say that you want to literally oblirated a whole race, right? /s

Israel Defense Minister Calls Palestinians ‘Human Animals’ Amid Israeli Aggression.

It's okay to call other people ''human animals'', just like the Nazi's did back in WW2 about the Jewish people.

Video shows Israeli settler trying to take over Palestinian house.

Not to forget about this.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

The NYT has lost all credibility to report anything on this conflict that is not Israeli government propaganda

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Netanyahu: ‘Not absolutely certain’ that Deif killed

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says it “is not absolutely certain” that Hamas terror chief Muhammad Deif and his deputy Rafa’a Salameh were eliminated in today’s IDF strike in Gaza.

Wow great success there. Just bomb the safe zone refugee camp and if anyone asks you 'missed deif' oopsie haha.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So I learned recently countries have a calculation of how many civilians would be acceptable casualties in order to eliminate a high value target.

For example, the US in it's hunt for Bin-Laden, had an acceptable civilian casualty number of 30 to kill him.

Israel just killed 71 and wounded who knows how many more to hit a guy I've never heard of. They say they probably didn't get him, and today I learned they've already killed his family in other strikes and he may have even been dead for years at this point.

The casualty math is gross but I get it. What Israel is doing is pure atrocity. Biden needs to get off Netanyahu and the Republicans' collective dick or we will have Trump cheering shit like this on.

[+] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 1 month ago

Deif is right after Sinwar in the chain of command in Gaza.
Rafa Salama, the commander of the Khan Younis Brigade, was also targeted in that strike.
The attack was on a fenced Hamas compound. I've seen they already published satellite pictures from before and after the strike.

And so far I haven't seen reports that distinguish between combatants and civilians. Either way Hamas combatants usually don't wear uniforms. You can see it in the videos they publish.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Stop lying and stop trying to justify war crimes.

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago

Lying about what?

The subject of this thread is about a strike on an army compound. That's not a war crime.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

No, the subject is attack of the state terrorist group, namely IDF on unarmed civilians in the refugee camp.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Deif is right after Sinwar in the chain of command in Gaza. Rafa Salama, the commander of the Khan Younis Brigade, was also targeted in that strike. The attack was on a fenced Hamas compound. I’ve seen they already published satellite pictures from before and after the strike.

You claim something but provide no evidence for the readers of your comment. So where’s the evidence? I’m curious. Any article I find writes only about Deif being the target, here’s one of them written on 13 July 2024:

Who is Mohammed Deif, Hamas military commander targeted by Israel?

From the article:

It is not yet known if Deif was killed in the Israeli strike that targeted him Saturday

Israel’s military says it targeted Mohammed Deif, the commander of Hamas’s military wing, in a strike Saturday.

Israel said Saturday that it targeted Mohammed Deif, the shadowy Hamas military leader, in an operation in the Mawasi area of southern Gaza. There was no immediate confirmation that Deif was killed, but the strikes on an area packed with displaced people left at least 90 Palestinians dead and 300 injured, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.

Your next text:

I’ve seen they already published satellite pictures from before and after the strike

You have already 'seen' it but provide no link to the source of your claim where you've seen it. Provide a source; otherwise, it's just a rumor or a lie.

And so far I haven’t seen reports that distinguish between combatants and civilians. Either way Hamas combatants usually don’t wear uniforms. You can see it in the videos they publish.

Not entirely true either: Israel Sought to Contain Hamas for Years. Now It Faces a Potentially Costly Fight to Eliminate It.

The article is paywalled but the article is not the point, the image they use is. It shows how Hamas dresses usually. Sometimes they do wear normal clothes, just as IDF soldiers do. Did you forget what IDF did? Let me remind you:

Even ''better'', here's a video of IDF dressed as women in action:

Israeli Forces Dressed as Women and Medics Storm West Bank Hospital | VOA News

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

About Rafa?
Sure: Yahoo, Reuters, Asharq Al-Awsat

Quote from Reuters:

The Israeli military said the strike against Deif also targeted Rafa Salama, the commander of Hamas' Khan Younis Brigade, describing them as two of the masterminds of the Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel that triggered the nine-month war in Gaza

About the pictures, this article shows them.
Reuters also mentioned them, but it's written they haven't verified them yet.

I should've clarified. They aren't currently using uniforms. As in, in the fighting since the 7th of October. They justify it themselves in interviews and you can see it in videos of theirs.

And that isn't the IDF, it's the Israeli police's counter-terrorism unit.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"Speaking to Newshour on the BBC World Service, Dr Mohammed Abu Rayya, who is at a hospital dealing with the aftermath of the attack, said the majority of those injured were suffering from multiple shrapnel wounds.

He said it was like being in "hell", adding that many of the casualties were civilians, notably women and children. "

Go to hell.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

About Rafa?

Thanks for the sources.

I should’ve clarified. They aren’t currently using uniforms. As in, in the fighting since the 7th of October. They justify it themselves in interviews and you can see it in videos of theirs.

It does not matter whether they are doing it now, later or in the past. My point is: both sides are purposefully blending in society of the Palestinian people and that Hamas does indeed have their own military uniforms.

About the pictures, this article shows them. Reuters also mentioned them, but it’s written they haven’t verified them yet.

So it is not verified yet or is it? As long as it is not verified by someone else than Israel or Hamas, how certain can we as viewers and readers be? Israel is known for lying to the entire world. Few examples of their lies:

And that isn’t the IDF, it’s the Israeli police’s counter-terrorism unit.

Making a distinct between IDF and their police unit does not matter. Israel is doing it as well. That's my point. Therefore you cannot only 'point fingers' to Hamas.

Honestly my whole point of argument is; there's no justifying what Israel has been doing since 7 October. Way (way) to many innocent Palestinian civillains have been murdered by Israel with very little ''victory'' for Israel. Israel's PM goal is not achievable at all. Because Hamas will forever exist as long as Israel is the occupier, stealing land, illegal settlements, Apartheid and everything else they do towards the Palestinian people.

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