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[-] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 123 points 5 months ago

Its horrific to watch left (wing) leaning politicians tripping over themselves wishing trump a speedy recovery and condemning violence in any way, and then see the comments filled with fascists literally telling them that they will kill them for "demonizing the right and causing this to happen.".

It is terrifying.

"We wish mr.trump a speedy recovery! Violence is never the answer! We hope he is okay! 🥺"

"You caused this by demonizing us and calling us fascists and nazis. We will come for you and kill you."

"Totally understandable! We are so sorry! 🙏🥺 Please continue your quest for genocide and the elimination of democracy! Again, so sorry! Forgive me! 🙏😭"

[-] JayTreeman@fedia.io 55 points 5 months ago

IF Trump is the threat to democracy that the dems say, the shooting was a reasonable response. I hate this 'violence is never the answer ' nonsense. I've been taught my entire life that sometimes violence is justified. For example: ww2, American revolutionary war, civil war, wars for independence (thanks Britain), Haitian uprising....

[-] Sho@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

"Violence is never the answer" coming from a country that can't sustain its economy unless they are in some war. All the time.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Violence is never the answer*

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The irony is these politicians have all supported or are directly responsible for state sanctioned murder through the armed forces.

Like you literally have a monopoly on violence and murder, the fuck you saying it’s not okay?

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This. I am finding it bizarre how violence by the state is perfectly acceptable but suddenly it becomes unacceptable when a non state actor does exactly the same.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

the shooting was a reasonable response

Well, yes, but it was also an ineffective response. The problem isn't that Trump is the head of the party, it's the party. Trump isn't some magic irreplaceable leader, and a recursive solution isn't sustainable.

PS: (I said "it's the party", but that's not true either. The problem goes further than that; the entire system is rigged)

(Also, to be extra clear, violence is not merely justified but inevitably necessary, but randomly assassinating leaders isn't a viable strategy)

[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Violence is sometimes the answer. And that's when fascism comes rearing it's head because you know for damn sure they'll use all the violence they can to get their way and they won't ever stop trying to enact their shitty, dumb ideas that no one likes and every normal human being knows won't work.

Then the fascists will cry about violence and being civil as if they haven't been complete shitheads and stoking their own violent rhetoric for the past decade. Electing the worst person possible who constantly lies about everything and won't take responsibility for his own actions and words. A child rapist, wife beating, wife cheating, daughter fucking moron. And electing him means they're completely fine with all that stuff which should be a massive fucking red flag to anyone sane.

Hillary was completely right. Republicans are deplorable and they're only getting worse.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

IF Trump is the threat to democracy that the dems say, the shooting was a reasonable response.

Not really, no.

You're omitting the part where the implied threat is Trump getting power again. Not him just existing.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Every single Democratic response should have been "Thoughts and prayers! Now watch this drive..." takes golf swing

Anything more is overblown and unwarranted. None of them are responsible for this. The right is responsible for the violence and they don't give a shit unless it's happening to them.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

It's the Chamberlain approach to politics. If you need any more Nazi adjacent imagery to use. It's great the Democrats are willing to compromise and debate. Appeasing fascists however never has a good outcome. And most of them still cannot acknowledge that's what the GOP has been for nearly the last hundred years.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Sow the wind, reap the cyclone

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Of a politician wishing Trump a fast recovery.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I don't like to link Xitter, bad enough I had to give it engagement while Googling this, but if there are such things as the earlier commenter said, I'm sure they're somewhere below this post by Biden on Twitter

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Alright, not going to lie, bidens a fucking tool, again.

I guess though, if his appeal is actually to never Trumpers you have to attempt it, right? Not that I think it's worth his time.

[-] Strykker@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

It's not like Biden's the only one, Bernie did it, and so did Obama. And those are just the ones I saw posted on Lemmy.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I cannot blame them for not wanting the violence to escalate. But I don't think it can be avoided.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I may have just found my soulmate.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 116 points 5 months ago

Sorry, no. If you want people to listen when you talk, say something we won't forget. Hearing "loyalty means you will be unharmed" is horrific and unforgettable. No one wants the CIA to become the new KGB except far right nuts who grew up afraid of living in that kind of world.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

The funny thing is, those should be exactly the people who shouldn’t like the KGB. Yet here we are.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago

If they did nothing wrong in "Project 2025", what are they afraid of? Don't they like free advertisement of their parties agenda so that everyone knows what they are voting for?

[-] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 65 points 5 months ago

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it. (Republicans are here)

And if I did, you deserved it. (Those of us screaming about this shit as loud as we can are trying to prevent this from happening)

[-] LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 63 points 5 months ago

LOL Yeah, I’ll scream it from the rooftops until they plan to stop attacking democracy itself. Trump only became a target because of the insidious Project 2025. I won’t be bullied into being silent about this and hopefully reputable news sites won’t be bullied into silence. Too much is riding on his absolute defeat.

[-] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago
[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

People still are.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Fuck this criminal rapist trust fund loser. His Secret service know he's such a piece trash they let some dumbass kid take a few shots at him.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

Never gonna happen ya fat orange liar/rapist/pedophile

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

Are sunglasses part of their uniform?

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yes but only on the Trump security detail, he likes them looking cool. /s

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 5 months ago

It took longer than I'd imagined, tbh.

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