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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 262 points 4 months ago

She is killing it. He made a huge fucking mistake lying about her on video to the world. She just wanted to be left alone and go to college. Now she's out to expose him.

And he really should have known better. This is a woman who, without any need to do so, put it on the court record that she disowned him at a formality hearing to register a name change a couple of years ago. No one asked her, no one expected her to say it, she just wanted a legal record of her disowning one of the richest men in the world when she could have just waited for him to die and see if she inherited anything.

Check out her interview. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-transgender-daughter-vivian-wilson-interview-rcna163665

Before that, I could only imagine what sort of horrible father he was to prompt her to do that. Now I know exactly what sort of horrible father he was.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 147 points 4 months ago

“I lost my son, essentially,” Musk said. He used Wilson’s birth name, also known as a deadname for transgender people, and said she was “dead, killed by the woke mind virus.”

i don't have kids but i can't even comprehend someone saying something like that about their own child

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 91 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's nothing compared to what she's said he's said to her directly. No exact quotes, but she made it pretty clear that he was constantly saying homophobic things to her. And that was before she transitioned and he just thought she was gay.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

This is sadly a pretty common thing for trans people.

[-] BranBucket@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

I'm no psychologist or sociologist, but it seems that most of the people who treat their kids this way had kids because of external expectations or for status. They treat their kids like property or as an extension of themselves. Raising them to be cis no matter what is not about their child's well-being, it's about how having a trans child makes them look in the eyes of their bigoted, greedy, status-seeking, peers. When their kids come out as trans, they see this as a personal attack on their place in the pecking order.

In general, they treat even their cis children like shit, because they don't think of their children as people, children are just assets in what they think is some kind of cosmic dick measuring contest.

It's incomprehensible because it's pathological and generally sick.

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He’s just building up his conservative cred.

Harden the mind against silly weak things like compassion: check

Treat your family like property: check

“Woke mind virus”: lol

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

Luckily, you sound like you consider kids to be their own individuals and not little copies of yourself for you to control like puppets.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for every parent.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 months ago

Robert Evan’s (AKA Podcast Daddy) had a piece about this. His denial of his daughter’s transition is of a piece with his pro-natalist stance and his desire to colonize space. He is trying to become immortal. His child transitioning marks her as her own person, rather than an extension of him, which reinforces the fact that he will die one day.

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[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago

I really love that she keeps owning him on threads, too. It's just that extra little twist of the knife. She's proof that we don't have to suck just because our families do.

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[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 159 points 4 months ago

One thing I noticed, and you can check this for yourself too, is that American media outlets constantly refer to her as 'Elon Musks transgender daughter', and it really bothers me it's not just 'Elon Musks Daughter.'

So I checked, and the BBC, CTV News (canadian), CBC (also canadian) all just refer to her as his daughter.

I absolutely love that she's bringing the lumber, but I could really do with news organizations not using that as her identifier. She's not 'Elon Musk's transgender daughter.' She's Vivian Jenna Wilson, she doesn't even consider Elon her father. I'll let her speak for herself here:

(From her name change):

“I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form,” she wrote on the petition.

“I would like to emphasize one thing: I am an adult,” she said, according to NBC. “I am 20 years old. I am not a child. My life should be defined by my own choices.”

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 65 points 4 months ago

I hate to say it, but until trans people are normalized in American society, pointing out that his daughter is trans is probably necessary for people to understand why Elon says he lost his son.

[-] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 43 points 4 months ago

You’re not wrong, but I think we all really wish you were.

Sad thing is, clarifying Elon’s hatred by pointing his daughter is trans, gives credence to his take in some folks’ eyes.

The conversation maybe ugly, but it still has to be had.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

He thinks the school system did this to his child, and he's on a mission to stop the woke because of it.

You cant get that across when you just say his daughter.

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[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Is it though? It just legitimizes it as a reason to separate her from other women. Until I see "So-and-So's cis-gendered hetero daughter" I think we can agree it's singling them out, not highlighting something in good faith. For example, and this is the BBC's:

Elon Musk: Billionaire's daughter cuts ties with her father | BBC

She's a woman, who from what I can see is emancipated from her father. He's a sack of shit, she's voicing that. That's the story.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

That doesn’t explain why. And the why here is important. Essential.

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[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

I suspect that it's more for "engagement" and clickbait than malice from the headline writer.

that is if you don't think that this kind of communication isn't harmful to the human race at least. Which it is. Obviously.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 151 points 4 months ago

14 words breeder shit

For those who don't get the reference, she's calling him a literal NAZI.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago
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[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 21 points 4 months ago

Oh. Those 14 words. I thought there was another set of words specifically against child free people.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 months ago

I appreciate you remembering not everyone is tuned into this stuff to the same degree. I just immediately thought “oh, he’s a nazi? That scans” when I saw the 14 words reference.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 79 points 4 months ago

You know what, I think Elon's kid is gonna turn out alright.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

The interview she gave with NBC says she's a college student studying languages, so if nothing else, she could have a good life as a translator. And you don't generally study languages plural in college if you're not very smart.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

I think Elon’s kid is gonna turn out alright.

I'd say she already did.

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[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago

Don't forget who you were Elon. Trying to erase an image, almost like you no longer feel like that person anymore (or maybe never did)

Deleted Forever Elon

[-] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago

The time Elon tried cosplaying Edward Scissorhands

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 months ago
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[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 68 points 4 months ago

Sometimes I doubt my skills as a father. Then I read shit like this and realize I’m doing alright.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I tell a lot of new parents that kids are amazingly resilient, so when you inevitably make mistakes, they'll likely be fine. On the other hand, they're amazingly sensitive and perceptive, so no matter how good of a job you do, you'll probably leave then with at least minor issues. I mean, if someone you know has zero emotional issues, it probably means you don't know them that well.

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[-] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

language of the enemy

what have we done to him? I hate him even more than I did before reading this.

Edit: I didn't expect my comment to track. I may as well take this opportunity to post a Chrisitan Arab's perspective on Arabic

Consider a language spoken by Christians for more than fifteen hundred years. Its early masters composed exquisite poetry, pioneering a tradition that still flourishes today. Many of the great works of Christian thought were composed in this language; many of the most significant texts of philosophy, medicine, and astronomy were preserved in it. The Bible could be read in it for centuries before it could be read in English, French, German, or Spanish. Today it is spoken and written across Europe and North America, as well as Asia and Africa; it features prominently in modern political thought and advocacy. I am speaking, of course, of Arabic.

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2024/08/arabic-a-christian-language

[-] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago

Exist? That alone is enough for weirdos like Musk to want POC dead.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

I think it's the most beautiful and elegant looking writing system, as someone who can neither read nor speak it.

[-] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Thank you. This comment got me to start !arabiccalligraphy.

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[-] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 months ago

The reason why he hasn't sued her for libel is because he knows her lawyers would mop the floor with him with the disclosure.

[-] tibi@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

One of the core values of conservatism is removing regulations and protections for regular people against corporations, and giving them more power. That's what Elon believes in. The rest of it, like the "family values" and "religious rights" are just a smoke screen for the voters.

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[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 36 points 4 months ago

When I grow up I want to be badass like her.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 36 points 4 months ago

haha what a badass

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 months ago

Fuck yay! Go girl!

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

TIL This Vivian girl is based af

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

and imagine achieving this with Elon as your parent, it is like starting a race of becoming a sensible person with a -10 penalty

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Social network and big data, Cambridge Analytica never died, it prospered like a hydra who only got one of its heads cut off. People who only went online to affirm their beliefs are now getting herded into like minded crazies and airheads that serve their purpose as subgroups of artificial movements. And nothing is going to be done about it because astrosurfing is a cornerstone of capitalism, apparently.

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

POW! BIFF! THWUNK! The superhero we deserve.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 months ago

Down with Elon Musk

[-] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

This kid should really let it all out in public and non-stop Musk deserves it! 🤣

[-] RubyRhod@lemm.ee 16 points 4 months ago

How to support?

Assuming she's cut off, is there a patreon... or something?

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

She's worth a hundred Elons.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

A highly entertaining curb stomping. 10/10, no notes.

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