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because otherwise they’d probably be second at the current moment, tbh doomjak

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 66 points 4 months ago

because otherwise they’d probably be second at the current moment, tbh

The US military has killed 2 million people per decade every decade since ww2.

The IDF does not even come close to the US military.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 36 points 4 months ago

16,000,000 still ain't got nothing on the British Empire's multiple man-made famines that replaced policies of giving food to people who were starving to ensure they didn't die with new policies of not doing that because it enabled them to wield starvation as a cudgel against any and all forms of organized labor. The British Empire killed anywhere from 10 million to 200+ million depending on if you count doing nothing to address public health issues for the poor and especially the colonized as social murder (lib historians do not).

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

Absolutely, the British empire was unfathomably evil, thanks in no small part to the incredibly open classism of the british aristocracy that never really evolved all that much over feudal times.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago

Yea it's been pretty lib seeing people act like Israel is a unique evil but like no, so many countries in the West have already done just as bad or worse but with infinitely better PR

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago

It's really more the horrifying spectacle of it. In Vietnam people had access to rapid or sometimes even live TV news about what was happening in the war, and it changed public opinion drastically. Same with TikTok now. It's hard to swallow any of Israel's bullshit when you've seen footage of children screaming with bones sticking out of their mangled legs, crying near-skeletal because they can't stand the unending pain of starving to death, plastic bags of 70kg of shredded meat each being counted as a person and whatnot.

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

Is that an average? I'm really curious about your sourcing on that because that's a hell of a mic drop to have in my pocket later.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I saw a comrade say it once and I've been repeating it ever since because I know that even if you checked the numbers they'd be fucking BAD. I know for a fact that it's true for the last few decades because the deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and so on are all attributable to the US. Going further back we've got the Korean War. Vietnam. We could also throw in Yemen? Syria. Iran?

It depends on what you want to attribute to them. But even being conservative the numbers aren't gonna be good are they?

Someone could do the numbers if they want, I've never felt the need to, that number is horrific and definitely feels right.

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

nerd

Um, actually... the US military only averages 1.9 million deaths

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[-] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

yeah I know, just thinking that since she’s saying this aspirationally she’s talking like there’s another army to overcome, which implies Israel since we’re discussing wanton lethality.

it’s already an instance of “we gotta turn the Hitler dial up” but if you were asking for a counterexample for any army that comes close w/rt unadulterated lethality it’s gotta be Israel, especially if we’re considering the American attention span

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

She also mention unlike Trump she will deal with the autocrats, which shows a foreign policy more agressive than Biden's which combined with that policy paper from her team that criticized Trump for not striking Iran after their response for the assasination of their general, means we could see an Iran-US war during her presidency

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 43 points 4 months ago

oh cool the democrats literally giving me an actual non joking reason to vote for trump, that's great

I'm too lazy to do it so nobody fucking @ me about it, but like, jesus christ guys

[-] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

policy paper from her team that criticized Trump for not striking Iran

uhh, what now?

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

It was from the Official Democratic Party platform

All of this [ed: prior 3 paragraphs all about bs Biden did against Iran] stands in sharp contrast to Trump's fecklessness and weakness in the face of Iranian aggression during his presidency. In 2018, when Iranian-backed militias repeatedly attacked the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq Trump’s only response was to close our diplomatic facility. In June 2019, when Iran shot down a U.S. surveillance aircraft operating in international airspace above the Straits of Hormuz, Trump responded by tweet and then abruptly called off any actual retaliation, causing confusion and concern among his own national security team. In September 2019, when Iranian-backed groups threatened global energy markets by attacking Saudi oil infrastructure, Trump failed to respond against Iran or its proxies. In January 2020, when Iran, for the first and only time in its history, directly launched ballistic missiles against U.S. troops in western Iraq, Trump mocked the resulting Traumatic Brain Injuries suffered by dozens of American servicemembers as mere “headaches” – and again, took no action

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 48 points 4 months ago

Remember when all the libs were losing their minds when Trump ordered the assassination of Solemani? Now its not even a footnote in this revisionist nonsense.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago

like what the fuck, right? He almost started a fucking war with that, WHICH THE DEMOCRATS FUCKJING CRITICIZED HIM FOR BUT LIKE NOW IT'S LIKE HE WAS WEAK ON IRAN WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS AHHAHAHHGHGHSAGGQA}| AGH

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Dems are just republicans who pretend to be progressive

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

insert evergreen Disco Elysium "Kingdom of Morality" quote here

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Trump mocked the resulting Traumatic Brain Injuries suffered by dozens of American servicemembers as mere “headaches”

Okay Trump sucks but this is hella based

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[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Can't wait for some coups because a foreign official was found in possession of weed.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

they will simply use it as evidence of it becoming a narco-state and use it to intervine

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[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 51 points 4 months ago
[-] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

genocide joe and kill-em-all kamala

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

Holocaust Harris

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Kill-em-all-a

Killemalla sounds so good

[-] Spike@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Pokemon go commit genocide

[-] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 45 points 4 months ago
[-] refolde@hexbear.net 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This might be really controversial to say, but I think everyone who cheers this on should literally be crucified and put on display on every street.

My moral standards have dropped considerably these past several years.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

I literally said out loud during her speech “Please Iran this is the time to start your retaliation hit this fucking building with a hypersonic missile kill everyone in this miserable convention please”

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[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

i-love-killing-people

'Murica fuck yeah!

The world will know why Americans don't have healthcare...

or basic education...

or a pension system...

or infrastructure...

or...

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