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Endless quote tweets and responses just mindlessly agreeing. Quite baffling.

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[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

if anyone's lips touches a drop of alcohol they instantly convert to christianity. everyone here knows that.

EDIT: also holy shit islamic "occupiers" is such a dog whistle lmao.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago
[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Iranians are theological authoritarians, but they also follow supply and demand principals and shut down mosques because people are openly refusing to be muslim

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Supply and demand supercedes all. It is the law of the universe that cannot be resisted mega-rich-light-bending-guy

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And then you learn about economics and it's actually like, not even a real, consistent thing at all because real economies are absurd and the idea of "supply and demand" is just a vague rule of thumb guess as to what'll probably happen when you change something, but you can just as easily get rising demand from rising supply (as something becomes accessible and popularized), falling demand from falling supply (because people can just get something else), unpredictable effects from related changes in cost or availability (like a decreasing cost also decreasing consumption, because it means people can afford to replace a portion of their consumption with something more desirable), and effectively random changes from shifts in consumption or production of entirely unrelated things.

Basically everything they teach people about economics below a post grad level (and by that point someone's in too deep to catch just how groundless all the pure ideology they've been taught is) is just flat out wrong to the point of being not just an oversimplification but outright incoherent lies. It's like if Biology as taught in grade and high schools was interested primarily in doing dog breed race science with a handwaved "and other things are like this too, because that's intuitively correct to believe" and taught that cells were actually sort of like tiny dogs and that plants were just dogs that sit really still all the time and that was somehow supposed to form a workable framework for anything and also that was literally the hegemonic state-sanctioned ideology.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

cells were actually sort of like tiny dogs and that plants were just dogs that sit really still all the time

Omg I understand biology now tails-what

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

(like a decreasing cost also decreasing consumption, because it means people can afford to replace a portion of their consumption with something more desirable)

just in case someone doesn't understand this:

  • streaming service reduces fees
  • person now has more money
  • uses it to build a computer
  • now spends their time gaming
  • questions why they even have the streaming service
  • cancels
  • an eagle named "supply and demand" sat atop the chalk and shed a tear
[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

The real world example I've seen cited for that is potatoes as a staple food being partially replaced by meat or other comparative luxury foods as their price fell because having to spend less on potatoes to survive meant people could buy a small amount of meat and so didn't need as many potatoes.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The zoroastrians are still around? How are they doing these days?

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yeah they are still around. one of my friends was Zoroastrian. thanks to people's interest in them they are not doing badly but they still face the difficulties minority religions in iran have, their membership is dwindling and when your ethnic-religious identity is wrapped up in fascist fantasies of pure aryanhood it tends to attract a certain type towards you.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

when your ethnic-religious identity is wrapped up in fascist fantasies of pure aryanhood it tends to attract a certain type towards you

what-the-hell that sucks so much

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

from people mimicking your prayers and customs in their weddings so that they can have "aryan" marriages to chud podcasters saying we should hang akhunds from every lamp post while your religious iconography is plastered all over the background, yeah it does suck.

to a lesser extent this is also true about christians although that's mostly contained to people celebrating christmas outside of churches at 12 am and causing a ruckus lol.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

of pure aryanhood

thank genghis those people don't exist anymore

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[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

Regardless of active participation in the religion, Zoroastrianism has lasting effects on Iranian culture that people passively observe in the same way that Buddhism and Taoism remain relevant in China

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: Holy shit I hadn't read the last sentence

Uh, if this derangement means they wont cheer for nuclear war with Iran like libs do, eh lets welcome it

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Honestly, feels more like some kind of They'll greet us as liberators! kind of vibe

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Zoroastrianism

An entire nation of Freddie Mercury's

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago
[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Where do they cook up these numbers? I can never find a source, and whenever I bring that up they always say that the IRI is censoring it.

I don't mean to be one of those people, but can we start mandating Intro to Logic for all religious people? At least the Christians because it's annoying when they say this shit.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

its truly amazing how there's only like 12 muslims left in Iran but the regime continues trucking onward. maybe muhammad was right.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

It's insane! It's like North Korea! Everyone is inside a camp since whenever one guy gets sent the regime sends his whole extended family!

There absolutely no videos where north Koreans are roaming the streets doing normal shit!

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

500 gorillion dead Russians

Everyone who disagrees is Russian.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

Islamic occupiers

whose fault is that?

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of young Iranians are disillusioned by Islam because of their government. I certainly don’t see it out of the realm of possibility that there are lots of converts although Christianity is still at like 1% of the country. A drop in a bucket for now.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  1. There's zero evidence Christians aren't just some tiny minority in Iran.

  2. Why would disillusionment over Islam make people convert to Christianity and not just, you know, be secular?

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To add to point number 2: I don't know any Iranians who are disillusioned who didn't just drop religion all together

Christians constantly do this shit, simultaneously oppressed but also on the rise in the millions for any given country.

It's a pathetic thing.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

its to recruit missionaries

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

Missionaries of any religion should be banned.

If people cared, they'd Google your religion.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would disillusionment over Islam make people convert to Christianity and not just, you know, be secular?

Same reason western kids hailed satan for about 7 years before graduating high school

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Those same people stopped believing in religion after tho. Very few of those people became born again Christians.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago
  1. That’s exactly what I said lol
  2. because some people seek alternative groups, and Christianity is legal in Iran.

Hell, my ex-girlfriend from over 10 years ago is Iranian and her whole family converted to Christianity. Guess I should have asked why but I guess I don’t really care

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (18 children)

I certainly don’t see it out of the realm of possibility that there are lots of converts although Christianity

I certainly don't see it out of the realm of possibility that everyone in Japan converts to Mormonism, it's still a ludicrous deranged claim to advance let alone take seriously

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

Eh.... Ok Mr. smuglord

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't Zoroastrians not accept converts? (Pulling this outta my ass yes)

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think most orthodox groups of zoroastrians outright don't, not just because of an ethnic component but because of a religious-philosophical notion that whatever religion you are is what is intended for the world. So it's even less of a missionary religion than Judaism. It's only now-ish that a counter movement from certain groups is forming, as they realize the religion is nearly dead.

Ngl 'iranian' people who are actually canadian or australian seem to nurture the most insane of world views. For one, they like to call themselves persian even though thats kitsch at best and supremacist at worst.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For one, they like to call themselves persian even though thats kitsch at best and supremacist at worst.

There are so many ethnic/ racial groups within Iran; azeris, Kurds, Arabs, Persians, balochis, etc. Persian is 50% roughly depending on your source. Not only that but calling Iran persia, is a colonial term.

That's why they changed the name themselves to Iran, because they're the land of the Ayranian people.

Someone should tell them to do a test at least.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only reasonable explanation I have for this phenomenom is that these people are morons, believe that calling themselves Persian makes them western compliant, and believe it was the Ayatollah who 'changed the country's name'.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This terminology prevailed until 1935, when, during an international gathering for Nowruz, the Iranian king Reza Shah Pahlavi officially requested that foreign delegates begin using the endonym "Iran" in formal correspondence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Iran

It wasn't the Ayatollah, this happened long before the rise of the IRI or the revolution

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

yes thats why they are dumb

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