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Tuitto

Imagine getting outflacked from the left by a normal green socdem when you call yourself a democratic "socialist"

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[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 133 points 4 weeks ago

God the Overton Window in the US is so fucked lmao

Seriously, Greens would be considered conservatives in Cuba or even France. Yet they're still somehow leftwing extremists compared to progressives within the DNC.

[-] goferking0 59 points 4 weeks ago

Sadly not just in the USA. Getting fucked everywhere

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 54 points 4 weeks ago

At least in other places it seems like the economy receding or stagnating has led to some measured resurgence of keynesianism or some resistance to neoliberalism in forms that are distinct from fascism, i.e. left wing populism. In the US the only response to the failure of neoliberalism is more neoliberalism, and anyone who wants an alternative is attacked as a stooge for the fascists (who also just want more neoliberalism).

[-] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 54 points 4 weeks ago

God the Overton Window in the US is so fucked lmao

I have low expectations and still I was surprised by Kamala “FUCK YOU I LOVE FRACKING” Harris’ showing during the debate

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[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 49 points 4 weeks ago

i've been saying, these days in western capitalist countries being to the left of mussolini is considered a threat to the system.

[-] heatenconsumerist@hexbear.net 49 points 4 weeks ago

They do actually have a shot at winning though.

As much as people like Claudia are 100x better, the Green's have over 270 possible electoral votes

AOC wouldn't be shit-stirring (against a party that she once campaigned for) unless shit was really hitting the fan for the dems.

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 42 points 4 weeks ago

The problem with the Overton window argument is that democrats move right even when they win

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 35 points 4 weeks ago

the-democrat "We lost? It's because we didn't do enough to appeal to conservative voters!"

the-democrat "We won? In the spirit of unity, it's time to work across the aisle with our Republican colleagues."

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[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 95 points 4 weeks ago

Jill Stein living rent free in AOC's head has been extremely funny.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 90 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

All of AOC attemps at dunking on her just helping her by making her and her policies more well known and all Jill has been doing is saying "ok but you support genocide" which keeps pissing her off

[-] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 65 points 4 weeks ago

aoc is struggling with the cognitive dissonance of still seeing herself as a moral person while being a nazi party stooge.

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 90 points 4 weeks ago

Why is aoc even tweeting about jill stein thats like essentially promoting her.

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[-] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 84 points 4 weeks ago

i wish I could go back to 2015 and 2019 and get all my $27's back

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 55 points 4 weeks ago

WIsh I could go back to 2015 just for grocery shopping tbh

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[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 35 points 4 weeks ago

I’m so grateful it’s only one 27 for me 🙏

[-] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 50 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

"hey it's me, i mean you, i'm from the future. you're not ready to hear this, but...

spoilerthey're all nazis!!

... you should spend that $27 on weed"

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[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 84 points 4 weeks ago

You know what? Im gonna vote Jill Stein even harder

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 80 points 4 weeks ago

AOC is doing what Democratic Party leadership tells her to. Do you disagree?

[-] jack@hexbear.net 64 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I dunno, I think she's a real go-getter of a sellout and a comprador. She puts in the extra hours and takes initiative on ways to betray and backstab the movement she sprang from. She's a dedicated student of historic sheepdogs and an innovative disruptor in the field of movement breaking.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 48 points 4 weeks ago

Dems must be scared a lot of the poll numbers in swing states if they decided to send one of their most known member to pick a twitter fight with jill stein

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 41 points 4 weeks ago

They've been going nuts in GA trying to keep all 3rd parties off the ballot

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 44 points 4 weeks ago

We need to consider the power dynamics she's under.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 36 points 4 weeks ago

Do you disagree?

[-] yoink@hexbear.net 37 points 4 weeks ago

AOC is doing what the unions wanted her to.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 75 points 4 weeks ago

we dont murder anymore, nowadays its all about SLAMMING

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 73 points 4 weeks ago

where is de la cruz at? PSL need a special (extremely well-adjusted) poster

[-] regul@hexbear.net 52 points 4 weeks ago

>(extremely well-adjusted)

> poster

pick one

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[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 71 points 4 weeks ago

I hate AOC more and more, there should be no illusion that she is looking for a long career as a Democrat party sheepdog. I always like Stein.

[-] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 70 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

if the green party is a threat to your candidate they're already cooked

[-] reaper_cushions@hexbear.net 56 points 4 weeks ago

Ah, the tried and true succdem tactic of “punching left” (at other succdems lmao). Worked great in Germany in the last 20s, the SPD secured power for eternity and Germany has achieved socialism.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 49 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Stein is actually a pretty powerful poster

74 years old and dunking like that is baller.

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 49 points 4 weeks ago

Democrats try not to do genocidal imperialism for one presidential term challenge (impossible)

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 47 points 4 weeks ago

Organize, build power and infrastructure. For some reason she decided to do that in Israel .

[-] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 4 weeks ago

I would entryism does not work but these people already know it, they just don't wanna say it

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 61 points 4 weeks ago

Entryism works perfectly well, though: it advances your personal brand, nullifies energy that would otherwise go into building dual power, and gets you a successful career of perpetually failing upwards until you become Nancy Pelosi.

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[-] PostyourJaggaHogs@hexbear.net 44 points 4 weeks ago

I still cannot believe I thought this woman was cool

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[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 35 points 4 weeks ago

AOC is a piece of shit and I hope she gets giardia.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

"Organize, build power and infrastructure" to enact mass killing and starvation of Palestinians.

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