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Reform UK being a bunch of Nazis isn't surprising at all

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[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is very misleading as it excludes "don't know" results. That fact is the overall majority responded "don't know".

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the original poll shows that only around half would choose communism, and I'd wager if push came to shove the undecided would side with fascism in the end.

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50352-communism-vs-fascism-which-would-britons-choose

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago
[–] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Well I guess if the Times can publish misleading polls all the time, why not Novara

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's my cynicism regarding whites acting up, but I have my immense doubts.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah like how they did elected fascists, repeatedly.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because they don't CALL themselves fascists. Using that word is an obvious bad thing and most people aren't going to support it. So they don't call themselves that. Even fucking Hitler was smart enough to co-opt naming that they knew people supported. The National SOCIALIST party.

The call themselves moderates, conservatives, liberals, etc. And because of that, people are fine with them coming in and sending bombs to genocide other nations, making speeches where immigrants are labeled as animals, making policies to jail poor people, etc. etc.

I made this comment elsewhere here but, it's not going to ever be "choose between communism and fascism." It's going to be a spectrum of people that mostly do nother while the actual fascists, that don't call themselves fascists, start killing communists, that DO call themselves communists. And most people will be ok with it for the same reasons they have always been ok with it. "Well they are extremists and should have been more reasonable." "Well I'm not a communist so I will be ok." ...

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago

Go on, do America now. Should be interesting.

Oops all Nazis

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They are increasingly becoming the only two options.

[–] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

In my country, the options are becoming "fascist" vs "not so fascist" lol

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 13 points 7 months ago

Reform UK being a bunch of Nazis isn't surprising at all

Reform pretending that any of them would vote for communism is. Are they actually that unaware of the party they joined?

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago

The thing is, it's not going to be "communism vs fascism" because those in power know people don't like that word "fascist." Change this to communism vs capitalism and see how those views change. What it will be is actual fascists, not calling themselves fascists, attacking actual communists, that DO call themselves communists. And people will mostly just let it happen because all those "support communism" people are mostly a mix of what? Liberals, Soc Dems, Dem Socs, moderates, etc, etc.

They will sit by and do nothing cause they will think "well the communists are being too extreme. We should compromise. The government isn't actual fascism or anything. I mean, I'M not a communist." Ect. Ect.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic. I'm just being logical and not letting myself get into some false sense that the UK is someone on the cusp of going communist.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago

They are increasingly becoming the only two options.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago
[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Reform more Nazi than Conservative lol

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Reform into fascism

[–] theturtlemoves@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How is Labour to the right of the Lib Dems?? (Rhetorical question, I know. Fuck Starmer.)

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

On this chart, Labour is to the left of Lib Dems, 93% to 90%. They are to the right of Greens, who have 96%.

[–] theturtlemoves@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Oh, your'e right. I can't read.

[–] Coco0330@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Watch The Kavernacle video about the UK elections

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago
[–] some_guy 1 points 7 months ago

I have difficulty believing that 96% would go Green.