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[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago

I find it insane people most hurt by the nazis try the hardest to emulate them. Like what the hell man

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

This quote goes so hard

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 70 points 1 week ago

"When the lights turned on, everyone was in the resistance from the very beginning"

  • a German comedian whose name I forgot
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[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

It's been interesting. It's a real life answer to, "But how did the Nazis gain power?"

It's also terrifying.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Never again!!!

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Been saying this is exactly what will happen with Trump if he loses again. Watch people start backpedaling in the next few years, saying they weren't really a big fan.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure Paul Ryan will come out of his rock when Trump time is over. He stepped down as speaker because he knew the shit storm was coming.

[-] Soleos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

That's what we expected when Biden won in 2020, then Jan 6 happened and Trump is running again. There's an implication that things will gradually return to some 2007/2008 status quo (which was also very polarized) and right-wing extremism will simmer down. But there's no reason for it, no cultural forces for it. Right now there's no reason to think another Trump or someone worse won't take up the mantle of owning the libs by grifting the right.

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[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

watching this situation play out in real time in my life with pictures and videos all over social media and a majority of people hating it, but looking the other way and supporting leaders who enable it anyways makes me suspect that this his how all genocides takes place; the ruling classes lets it happen and they're enabled by their own liberals & conservatives masses.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Its a behavioral problem within hierarchical social structures. These things happened long before we had conservatives and liberals. Its an issue with how we structure our societies to "follow those at the top". When the top wants to murder and pillage, historically they dont have a hard time convincing the lower strata to cooperate.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

You've hit the nail on the head. A mix of propaganda, whataboutism, and short attention spans creates social intractability. Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky is a good media criticism book that speaks to this if anyone is curious.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i've been reluctant to read up on chomsky's works due to his response about visiting epstein's child fuck island (tldr: he said it's none of your business).

it diminishes his legacy and makes me wonder if his work is truly inspired or just high quality rantings of a smart man.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

That's dumb. If we find out Einstein was a kid diddler, I'm not gonna start questioning the merits of General Relativity.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

about visiting epstein’s child fuck island

When did Chomsky visit Epstein's island?

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

i didn't keep track; try google

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

All I can find is some meetings where Chomsky had Epstein moving some money around. Nothing about him ever visiting Epstein's island.

Dodgy enough, but it doesn't seem Chomsky was ever one of Epstein's "guests."

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

it's odd that i can google it either; the closest i could find was an accusation that epstein took him on a flight: https://www.businessinsider.nl/renowned-academic-noam-chomsky-told-the-wall-street-journal-that-his-meetings-with-jeffrey-epstein-are-none-of-your-business/

it smells like the efforts of a pr firm silently scrubbing news articles as they do for their clients.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

it smells like the efforts of a pr firm silently scrubbing news articles as they do for their clients.

No, it just sounds like Chomsky never actually visited that island. It's not going to be scrubbed because there are lots of right-wing "journalists" and rags that would absolutely love being able to prove that Chomsky did.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

That's definitely fucked up. That said, the book was a collaboration with another economist, Edward Herman. So it isnt entirely his work. It is still generally used as a text in economics and sociology programs across the world.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

i'm aware of it and it's on my list; just lower in priority due to the epstein update.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Shit. That's very disappointing. This is my first time hearing about it. Guess I'm glad I listened to Understanding Power through alternative means

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[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The Epstein update absolutely made me think less of him as a person, no exceptions should be made for that kind of shit. That said, his work on foreign policy like Manufacturing Consent, On Palestine, and Consequences of Capitalism are all extremely detailed and well done.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Gotta separate the art from the artist. And if you don't want to give that person money because they're terrible, pirate their stuff.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Shout out to Library Genesis and Used Book Copies. Sometimes the audiobook are free on an Audible subscription, but I'm not sure how the money flows for that one

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

on an Audible subscription, but I'm not sure how the money flows for that one

Straight into the pockets of Jeff Bezos. Audible has been owned by Amazon since 2008

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I understand when that just isn't possible, however. I'll never be able to enjoy The Cosby Show again, for example.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Inventing Reality by Michael Parenti is basically the same book.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

i haven't heard of this one; thank you

[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I don't see why his behaviour should have any correlation with the technical merits of his book. With that said, I haven't actually read it yet (it's on my list)

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

only in that he benefits from it; i think.

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Just out of curiosity, what's your take on the war in Ukraine?

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

For the record.

Fuck Israel.

And fuck it's supporters and enablers, too.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

What's even sadder than the quote is the fact that it's not true. Some people will never make an about face, even if they should because they have nothing to lose 10 or 20 years from now.

Take a look at Vietnam or the Iraq War. How many people who supported those when they happened or in the decade after they happened later went public and admitted that they got it wrong? Some people did, but many never would. Part of that is their identity. They never cared about the loss of life, and they never will, but they do care about signaling to their allies what's important.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Really helps you get a new level of respect for Muhammed Ali who was actually a massive celebrity on the right side of history.

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

he puts all those hollywood S-tier clueless celebrity twats to shame. The Rock and Justin Bieber were sharing pics of Gaza destruction on fire saying "Oct-7 pray for Israel" because they dont know shit about Palestine neither Israel, and were told to follow narrative or get cancelled. None of them has any principle or moral stand on anything. They're all sold.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

When we stop being afraid of the fuck ups who are doing this, we can stop it from ever happening again. Unfortunately the population is ruled by fear, bread, and circus.

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