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[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think anyone still in the scene will want to lay low for a while and work in the shadows. Only releasing after a few years.

I hope they dont go for dolphin or cemu claiming that certain games are in their e-shop for the switch 2 release.

Either way I think we should start backing up emulators and their source and require files regularly as a fallback.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I mean, all of these emulators are already very well archived and available from several sources, not to mention downloaded to the devices of millions of people. I highly doubt we would be in danger of losing any of them even if Nintendo were to sue literally all of them overnight. Well, except for things like Github issues and pull requests, nobody bothers to archive those unfortunately.

But yeah, IMO the danger is moreso that the attacks are leading to a massive chilling effect and loss of developer talent in the emulation community.

[-] josephsh5@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

I hope they dont go for dolphin or cemu claiming that certain games are in their e-shop for the switch 2 release.

That's exactly what I'm afraid of

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm a bit salty this was apparently announced through Discord. Was it even posted anywhere else?

The future of social media is fragmented siloes, I guess.

[-] Hazzard@lemm.ee 1 points 49 minutes ago

Yeah... even worse, it appears the admin didn't even announce it, this is just one of the developers clarifying what the admin probably did.

As someone who uses Ryujinx, I literally spent the afternoon curious about an error I was getting while updating about the build server being down "probably because it's building a new version, check back in a few minutes", only to find a Twitter screenshot of this linked in slack that evening.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I will never not be pissed off that the overwhelming majority of communities that made the internet vibrant especially when nerding out about niche stuff just happily moved to discord and foreclosed their futures.

Everytime I get down on the fediverse I think about what discord did to online communities I loved and I get fired up again.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't have an issue with many different communications platforms if they didn't all require an account (also Discord not being indexable sucks).

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Discord is even worse, as you need to find an invite to a specific Discord, and sometimes go through a lengthy sign up process for each Discord.

Some won't let you sign up without a phone #.

[-] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, this is a big part of why I stopped using discord recently. Not yet sure of any alternatives but leaving is step one.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Matrix.

And... Lemmy.

It doesn't matter though, the problem is the critical mass is migrating to Discord and shunting everything out of view. Honestly that's much worse than being on Reddit, even now.

[-] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Matrix does not have seamless desktop sharing or voice chat, and has a drastically higher executive cost. It also does not solve the information silo issue.

The fediverse as a whole is promising but likely needs to mature a bit longer. Theres a lot of potential issues that have yet to be worked through.

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[-] 3xa8yte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago

Now and then I bought Nintendo games for my nephew. This stopped right now.

[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 3 points 22 hours ago

Teach your nephew about the evilness of Nintendo and why he shouldn't support them anymore.

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 8 points 1 day ago

I mean. I understand the sentiment but I don't think your nephew will understand 😅 you should keep buying games for your nephew bro. I'll stop buying games in his place

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago

I'm sure there's plenty of other things they'd appreciate too. Maybe instead they could help them move over to PC even.

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[-] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago

Tons of boot kickers in the comments here

[-] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 13 hours ago

Boot lickers?

[-] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Well you gotta kick boots. What else you gonna do, kick sandals? That's just insane.

[-] xan1242@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 day ago

I need to remind some people here who don't seem to understand something.

Forks may be dead and development may not be as fast as the original.

However - you must think about the future and not the situation right now. Yuzu and Ryujinx sources will be invaluable information for people making emulators later down the line.

It's a matter of when and not if someone picks it up again.

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 34 points 1 day ago

Yeah, this is dumb.

I own original hardware and buy 100% of my games but sometimes you just wanna run games that aren't originally crossplatform on your Steamdeck for convenience, or on a PC with resolution upscaling, or for ease of streaming the gameplay, or tons of other legitimate reasons.

Nintendo has some great IP and gameplay, and I guarantee you their sales are not meaningfully hurt by people who pirate/emulate games. Those people were never their customers anyway. If anything the emulation community enabled streamers to boost the popularity of their games. (People like PointCrow did more for the sustained popularity of BOTW than all of Nintendo's marketing efforts combined)

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

A lot of people resort to emulation simply so they can play mods too.

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[-] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

I'm one of those weirdos who actually dumps all my own games with my own modded launch Switch mainly for preservation purposes.

But then TotK came out and performed so poorly on the console itself, I exported my save to play on PC and Steam Deck. Every part of my Switch emulation journey has been legal and by-the-book: dumped my own firmware, my own keys, and my own games.

Fuck Nintendo for bullying these developers.

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[-] refalo@programming.dev 19 points 1 day ago

Imagine not developing a controversial emulator anonymously...

[-] brian@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

doesn't matter if they don't know who you are, Nintendo can still offer you a ton of money to delete it. it wasn't necessarily legal threats or I assume they would have sent the cease and desist to GitHub and gotten the repo removed first

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago

fuck Nintendo and fuck fanboys who defend them at every turn. breath of the wild was a 7/10 game

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago

I say this as a die-hard 3D Zelda fan:

I was soooo boooored in BOTW! There was no current main story. It all happened in the past. You're basically playing through the climax the entire time. And I hated it. I mainly play Zelda for the story, and this was a very poorly told one.

TOTK was somewhat better because it gave us better characters (I will die for Tulin), a bit better characterization (I enjoyed Zelda getting a lot more fleshed out this time), and a somewhat better story... but there were still way too many reused story beats. That is to say, the story was fleshed out much better, but they still reused the overall story structure from BOTW (get the memories fight the four bosses in the four temples, etc.). They did add a fifth temple and a mid-game story thing, but that's mostly it. They also didn't even acknowledge how similar some things were to their counterparts in BOTW (ex. the ~~Malice~~ Gloom), which really bothered me. Also, some stuff just felt... unfinished. Like the reporter bird who, by the end of it all, just ends up pondering and trying to figure himself out... and that's it. It felt like setup for DLC, but there wasn't any.

... That was a very unintentionally long rant.

To summarize: hated BOTW; somewhat enjoyed TOTK, though it could've been much better.

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[-] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Well that sucks.. I'm still pissed at Roblox for their DRM rug pull on Linux. Didn't stop the bots and hackers for more than two weeks anyways - bet Ryujinx 2.0 will be out soon too.

Anyone know if DRM is cracked on Roblox yet? Just a yes or no I can find it nevermind I'll go look

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[-] kautau@lemmy.world 143 points 1 day ago

There were so many Nintendo apologists when Yuzu was taken down because "Yuzu used actual nintendo source code, so that's why they were taken down, it won't happen to Ryujinx." Yet here we are. Nintendo is by far the shittiest company when it comes to protecting their IP, because it's all they have. Turns out, Mario is a fucking bootlicker

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[-] josephsh5@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Why is Nintendo in particular this aggressive against emulators? Why haven't we heard of Sony going after PCSX2 and RPCS3, or Microsoft going after Xenia and Xemu?

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

Nintendo's infamously protective of its IP, even to its obvious detriment. I know a lot of people who jumped on the nomoretendo bandwagon after AM2R got DMCA'd, because the smart and morally correct thing to do would have been to hire that person and pull his incredible talent into the next Metroid game, because they clearly had a lot of love and respect for the subject matter and the technical expertise to put it into action. It's hard to overstate just how fucking good and polished that project was, virtually identical to the Fusion/Zero Mission engine, except in the ways it was more improved. It was certainly better than anything Nintendo had done with Metroid in quite a while.

[-] Juigi@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago

Nintendo sucks that's why

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