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[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 173 points 2 months ago

related ~~meme~~ microblog post :

[-] Baku@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago

For anyone else on an instance that insists on using that stupid image proxy thing that doesn't work with Imgur because of ratelimits:

https://imgur.com/xt1rec9

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago

There was no mental illness in the good old days. Just alcoholism. A lot of alcoholism. Those things of course have nothing to do with each other.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 34 points 2 months ago

And nicotine. If you didn't smoke yourself, you still got it secondhand. Most of the post-WWII era in America had everyone at least mildly on a psychoactive substance 24/7.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago

Oh, so that's why people seem to remember the 50s fondly...

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Yup. Tobacco, alcohol, and meth advertised directly to housewives. Yanno, good ol' wholesome Americana.

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago

How hard is it to read the article you posted? They didn't sell methamphetamine to housewives, it was amphetamine. That is a VERY big difference

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

As a woman with crippling ADHD, I can't imagine the horror of trying the new wonder drug, discovering it helped me keep the house and avoid being beaten, and then eventually having to go back to doing without...

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Yea, the ones selling methamphetamine to housewives were the Nazis in the '40s.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

No, that's probably because of the Hayes Code, which limited the sorts of things you could show on TV. People don't remember the real 1950s, just the film and TV of it.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Nicotine use papered over so many things.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

90% of diagnosed schizophrenics smoke cigarettes. I don't think they've found the mechanism but something in the tobacco helps manage their symptoms.

[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Wow TIL - that's wild! Nicotine just instantly scratches the "good job!" portion of your brain. Makes sense that folks with an imbalance in brain chemistry want some happy drugs to fix it. There's also the chance that nicotine could worsen or cause schizophrenia in some way!

https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-smoking-the-link

[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 58 points 2 months ago

Haha yeah.......

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 56 points 2 months ago

Its because the techniques to make people autistic are advancing. It used to be only a type of vaccine. Now its all vaccines, masks, phones, books and bread

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

It's in the plastic!!!

(Jokes aside, it may actually be in the plastic...)

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago

They’re making the frogs autistic!

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 months ago

Bonus points if your boomer parent got a ND diagnosis in their 50s, yet still refuses to believe that neurodiversity was just as much a thing when they were young as when you were, it was just ignored harder, as they actively ignore your ND diagnosis that you finally got independent of them in your 20s or 30s.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 months ago

I don't want the bonus points, I just want my mom to get the help she needs. But no... she's stubborn, prideful, etc. And even though she's a huge bigot and I want to punch her in the face, she's still my mom.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago

Personally I realised that if being related meant so little to them to treat me the way they did, there's no reason it should mean much to me, so I did what was healthiest for me for a change and cut contact. I wish you the best of luck getting her help (seriously), but you shouldn't be suffering just because someone is related to you.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

Same but grandma.

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

My boomer mother has never been diagnosed as far as I know. . She is obviously on the autism spectrum towards what used to be called aspergers. Add in a violent streak, some narcissistic tendencies, religious extremism, and deeply ingrained racism to the mix to make it extra spicy.

I haven't seen or spoken to her in more than a decade but I doubt anything has changed.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm in a similar boat (E: things were always worse with the parent who would never seek diagnosis), cutting contact was the best decision I've ever made for myself.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Then there was the transitional phase of Gen X calling them all gay or retarded before Millennials introduced acceptance.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

before Millennials introduced acceptance.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

I’m not suggesting that we’ve made it to full acceptance, but that Millennials really began normalizing acceptance of disorders as well as mental health treatment.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I make it a point to talk about my mental health and treatment openly with my friends and co-workers. Everyone should do it. You never know if you could be the little push someone needs to seek help.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 37 points 2 months ago

Gen X here. Anything that didn't fit in our box was gay or retarded.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I'm on (just barely) Gen Z and I still get called retarded for symptoms of neurodivergence

[-] kellyaster@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I'm a Gen Xer, and I think it's fucked up that people say things like that to you. I'm sorry, you deserve better.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

That's very kind, thank you

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 26 points 2 months ago

It's true. It irks me to see older people claim that autism/ADHD/anxiety etc. didn't exist in the past. Not only is it an attempt to invalidate people's experiences, but it's pure bullshit.

For example, what we today know as PTSD was characterised as "cowardice" during WW1. Do they really want us to go back to that?

[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago

I am sure this still goes on today in some cases. Also, PTSD was called shell shocked during WWI and was recognized as a medical condition, it was just that there was no idea what was causing it so a lot of people did not think it really existed.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Wasn't the spectrum expanded in the last 20 years? That in itself would raise the numbers. If I may play Devil's advocate, a level 1 or even a level 2 autistic person back in the day may have been seen as a bit eccentric or weird, but would overall pass for a neurotypical person and manage to hold a job, have a normal life if with some difficulty. So boomers probably knew quite a few people on the spectrum but just thought of them as just odd but good people.

I grew up in a place where the word autism isn't even in the vocabulary and thinking back, there's at least a few people I can now look back on and say they were autistic, even if we didn't know the term then.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

Yeah, back then "autism" was a full-on disorder. It had to be so strong that it impacted your ability to participate in society. Now we realize that it's more a character quirk with individual strengths and weaknesses, that it's worthwhile to be aware of, even when you manage to navigate society.

[-] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 8 points 2 months ago

Not just that, but IIRC the very first person to be diagnosed as autistic is still alive.

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[-] kellyaster@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Ah, the shitty narcissistic boomer assumption that anything "new" must be a lie. Yeah, people all over the fucking world are making up neurodivergence, queerness, and food allergies just to be difficult, right?

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

My grandfather wasn't even allowed to be left-handed.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

yeah i got dropped into a state run childrens home for a couple years cause my mom couldnt handle it by herself

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I'm reminded of the scene in The Sopranos where Tony finds out he had another uncle he never knew about.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 2 months ago

It's a good thing they didn't censor it! 🫠

[-] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Today’s behaviors would get you beat back then. I know.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago

Fuckin hilarious considering everyone thinks i got my 'tisms from my grandfather born in 1934.

[-] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 3 points 2 months ago

Hey now, don't forget model trains.

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