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[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

This is local politics in action. In a federation this is protected. In a federation this could also be forced on all federated states or banned. In a federal system it is also allowed that damaging actions are outlawed or embraced and cherished by the state. It is all imperfect but the entire idea is the hope that all the various levels of legal authority check and balance themselves for the benefit of the people and are accountable to wrote law.

I am just writing this for people to maybe remember that this is how a federation (see: The United States of America) is fundamentally supposed to function.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

That's not weird, that's how things should be. Working together.

[-] dubious@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

agreed. technically, both are native.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Well no, the Amish were settlers too. They're just working with the Indians instead of in spite of the Indians.

[-] dubious@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

they were all born there. we need to stop considering ancestors and consider the living.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 92 points 16 hours ago

That actually sounds awesome

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

I want to see a picture. In mind, it looks pretty dope.

[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago

The true American dream

[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 16 hours ago

What's weird is saying "native" and "indian" interchangeably in 2024.

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Someone has never been to a reservation and it shows.

[-] azi@mander.xyz 20 points 11 hours ago

'Indian' is still pretty widespread in the US

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -4 points 4 hours ago

Only generationally, as one might expect

[-] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 15 hours ago

My native american father in law prefers to call himself an Indian.

From his point of view he wouldn't call himself a "native american" because he belongs to an actual nation and indigenous people aren't a homogenous group.

He prefers Indian because it makes white people look bad. Incredibly based

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Me, Native American (heh): Indigenous to where? lmfao

Indigenous [Continent/general area here] would be the closest all-round. Indigenous North American just too many syllables though. Trying to fucking get away from the fucking whirlwind of every 10 years Anishinaabe, Algonquin, Ojibwe, Chippewa, Native American, Indian, Injun shit please. The fewer syllables the better, and nothing people already have please. And no stupid fucking people first word semantics dumb shit when you're literally using the same words but it's better in THIS order not the other...

I swear people just pick the worst words to describe people sometimes when going down the slippery slope for PC language. It's all so arbitrary lol.

People first language literally creates more in-groups and out-groups who have to jump literal semantic hoops, usually just to make the in group feel a little better labeling someone because people turn a blind eye to racists.

I have rarely, and I mean very, very rarely seen new language originate from minority or out-groups being used by their own people first then co-opted by the in-group. There's some random language here and there, but anything race/ethnicity related, it's almost always the in-group getting too racist to call people by what they used for the out-group before, and they have to start calling them something else or fear being branded a racist... Rather than, you know, ostracizing people for being fucking racist.

Maybe I'm just too mixed or too ND to care, but for the same reason why if you get the pronunciation of my name close enough and know you're referring to me, I could care less. (Heh)

TBH, I wish Injun made a comebock.

I like Namen/Nnamen. (Native North American, human, man, woman, his noodly appendage) too. No, I don't care if you say Nay-men or Nah-men.

You're wrong if you pronounce GIF as JIF though.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

You're wrong if you pronounce GIF as JIF though.

Everything was fine until you said that. Now we're mortal enemies.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

A sentiment I've heard a bunch is "oh, so you called us Indians and now you're uncomfortable with that label? Well fuck you, you don't get to keep unilaterally changing what's acceptable. If thinking about colonialism makes you uncomfortable, then great! Start sitting with that discomfort and recognising the crumb of self determination that we express by identifying as Indians. You gave us that label, and it's ours now."

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

So the people trying to make the term more accurate are the same ones that started calling then Indian in the first place? In other words, all white people are the same? That's one hell of an advanced Reverse UNO

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 14 hours ago

He prefers Indian because it makes white people look bad.

I know nothing else about him, but I like him already.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

It’s still technically called Indian Country and there are a variety of Indian services type organizations in the government.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago

Indian isn't offensive to native Americans in general

[-] ADTJ@feddit.uk 6 points 11 hours ago

I was reading it and genuinely thought it meant South Asian Indian at first

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[-] lohky@lemmy.world 221 points 21 hours ago

That's not weird. That's how functional societies reconcile when they aren't subjected to endless propaganda and fear mongering.

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

No what’s ‘weird’ is so many not understanding that ‘weird’ isn’t automatically negative. or maybe more disturbing that so many automatically go there at first instinct.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

i came to say this. being friends is healthy and normal.

[-] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Making friends? In this economy!?/s

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

With these social bubbles?!

[-] lohky@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I'm just so fuckin burnt out on xenophobia and i feel like that shit got pushed on me a lot growing up.

[-] Kacarott@aussie.zone 66 points 19 hours ago

I mean, it is weird in the sense that it is unusual. But that doesn't make it bad, in fact it should become more normal.

[-] valek879@sh.itjust.works 32 points 17 hours ago

I'd go so far as to say it's bad that it is unusual

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