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submitted 3 weeks ago by Head@lemmings.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Here's the research I've already done:

He's a snub nosed dog so he's not allowed underneath the planes in cargo due to risk of death. But he's freaking dense so he's not allowed in most cabins because they have a 15 lb weight limit.

United Airlines seems to have a size limit for dogs in the cabin, but no weight limit. However, both on the website and the app, when I search for transatlantic flights, I get error messages.

I also researched some cargo pet transport companies but I'd be looking at $3k each direction.

Our starting city is San Diego and our destination is Formentera, Spain. But if we could find a way to transport him from San Diego to anywhere in Spain or France, we could go the rest of the way by train so that would work just fine.

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 48 points 3 weeks ago

I also researched some cargo pet transport companies but I’d be looking at $3k each direction.

Well, then that's what it costs to transport your dog.
It's really a first world problem.

[-] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Certified 1st World Problem

Have you looked into health regulations and quarantine considerations? I think that may be a factor with pets, regardless of whether or both they’re technically certified as a service dog in the US. At any rate, I would categorically NOT assume that it’ll be smooth sailing when it comes to customs and immigration. That, in fact, might be part of what that expensive transport service is offering.

TL;DR: definitely look into the health/immigration/vaccination/quarantine considerations, because you might be in for an unpleasant surprise if you haven’t specifically prepared for it, as the EU is rather more bureaucratic about these things.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 23 points 3 weeks ago
[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, Johnny Depp's dogs was almost euthanized because amber heard brought them via private jet and didn't undergo quarantine in Australia.

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Australia and NZ have some of the strictest biosecurity laws in the world. Its important to look up the laws about transporting animals, but something like that is unlikely to happen for an atlantic crossing.

[-] Head@lemmings.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

He's got a pet passport.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago
[-] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 19 points 3 weeks ago

Yep I'd say it's better to find someone you can leave him with while you're overseas.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh i just kinda assumed that since they wanna bring the dog and didnt mention vacation that they were moving permanently. You think its a vacation?

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

They mentioned a “starting city”.

My advice for OP would be to treat the dog as if it’s someone they’re responsible for, and plan their life around the dog instead of the other way around.

Whether it’s moving or vacation, the question of the dog should have been handled first, not last.

[-] ladicius@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Agree. The dog doesn't care for the destination anyways.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

“Is there food there?”

[-] Blackout@fedia.io 24 points 3 weeks ago

You are going to need a very big trebuchet, possibly the biggest ever. Watch out for fanatics.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Go down to the docks and charter a boat captained by some salty dog. Better if they have an eye patch and/or wooden peg leg. I foresee nothing going wrong with this option.

But on a serious note, do look into bringing animals into other countries, oftentimes it's difficult and requires paperwork and such.

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I immigrated to the UK from Canada with my cat. He was able to go below in the cargo area. I had to get him a few rounds of rabies vaccines, microchipped and a pet passport. Then the cost of his flight with mandatory insurance was about $300 more than my flight. He had an extra 4 hours before the plane departed, and 6 after. Some animals wouldn't have had toooo hard a time with it, but he was traumatised. It took him more than a week to come out from behind the couch for longer than to use his litter box and eat.

I'll never be taking him out of the country again.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Aw, sorry he had a hard time acclimating. I've never done it personally, but I've heard from a couple friends it was a pain. But their accounts were pretty much the same. Shots, passport, and chip. Glad he's all good now though.

I don't plan on moving to another country, but I would like to travel with my dog. I don't think she'd do well on a plane either. I'm just not sure if I want to do multiple day drives with her (same country) or not.

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I get that. For a domestic flight, a loooot of these complications just go away. That said, could still be extremely expensive. Likely significantly more expensive than taking a scenic multiple day drive that your dog will absolutely love hopping out in strange places and peeing to claim it as no dog has before!

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. That's my thoughts. I'll get around to doing it eventually.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago

There are some pet friendly cruise ships that cross the Atlantic - it'd probably require taking a train across the US to get there though.

[-] Haus@kbin.earth 20 points 3 weeks ago

I'd advise using an African Swallow.

[-] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Unless they regularly carry very large coconuts, I'm not sure it will be strong enough

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

It could grip it by the scruff!

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago

It’s not a matter of how he grips it; it’s a simple question of weight ratios!

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You're going to need a few He's a chonky boy

[-] zephiriz@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago

You may have to buy a seat for them from the airline.

[-] Head@lemmings.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I'll look into this option, thank you!

[-] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe speak to an airline booking agent? I wonder if the weight limit might be different in business class. Upgrading your seat might be cheaper than buying two coach seats.

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

this is the way. a cruise ship would take weeks.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago

It's actually a 7or 8 night cruise to cross, not too bad for 1k/person.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago
[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Cruise ship?

[-] dxc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Is it usual for animals to be transported 10h+ per cargo mail? That sounds cruel.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

I doubt theyd just throw then in a box and slap a stamp on it lol. Its a specialized service probably thats why its so expensive. I bet they have a team of caretakers with the animals the whole way.

[-] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, there are dedicated animal transport services. Animals ride in a pressurized cabin.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

There you go little buddy. All the oxygen you can breathe!

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Im guessing this is at the very least a long term (months rather than weeks) move and thats why you arent just putting the dog in a doggy hotel or with family. If thats the case while i dont have experience crossing oceans with animals i do know even to cross state lines you need lots of paperwork for your animal so make sure thats in order. As for getting there if you havent bought your plane tickets yet it might be worth looking at chartering a small private plane for the flight. If you take into account all the costs it may not be that much more expensive and youd be able to bring the dog with you on the plane probably. Good luck figuring it out.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 0 points 3 weeks ago

Fact check: You only need proof of a rabies vaccine and a recent vet checkup in practically every state to transport a dog across state lines. Most states specifically exempt tourist's dog that are temporary and stay on leash outside. Hawaii, being an island with a delicate ecosystem, is the only state to require a quarantine.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

What are you on about? When did i say anything about a quarantine i literally said you need paperwork and you just specified what paperwork you need? How is that a fact check?

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website -1 points 3 weeks ago

You said something that sounded false, so I looked it up. You'd boardly misinterpreted and sensationalized the regulations about traveling with a dog across states lines so much that what you said was not true the way you said it. That's a fact check.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Wow. Im so sorry that my internet comment wasnt specific enough for you. Misinterpreted and sensationalized lol i said 1 sentence about it as an off hand comment to make sure they have all the paperwork they need.

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