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I decided to scroll through lemmy dot world and laughed out loud when I read this comment.

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[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 53 points 2 months ago

"as aoc said when arguing why you should vote for biden the first time: you’re not just voting for the person who already gives you everything you want. you’re voting for the person you will argue against, criticize, protest and try to convince to do what you want. out of the two, who do you think is less likely to respond to protests? who’s more likely to be open to dialogue, even if it’s an adversarial one? vote for Harris, then protest the fuck out of her positions you don’t like. maybe with enough pressure you can force some change. with mango mussolini you have no chance."

My favorite lib strategy. Give up what little leverage you have, give the person you don't like everything they want, and then complain about it from a position of zero political influence. Also, if you complain well enough to actually require an issue be addressed, you'll get the full weight of the US legal and enforcement mechanisms on your ass.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

who’s more likely to be open to dialogue, even if it’s an adversarial one?

Libs completely ignoring that both Trump and Harris are equally unlikely to listen to the average person. With a majority of the country opposing genocide, it's still full steam ahead even though it might cost the dems the election.

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

If that's your metric I'm not sure K-dolf comes out on top. Both are genocidal maniacs but Trump is so vain and erratic that you could at least imagine him doing something for popularity's sake even if it was the right thing to do.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago

Bruh trump may have been effective in turning some arab states' backs on palestine but biden and harris ran one of the most effective white washing of a genocide I've ever seen. I don't think people contemplate how bad it is.

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

It's a paper thin cover up

They're burning all their soft power for their MENA base and it'll fuck their standing in the long run

[-] jack@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

how it doesn't psychically break liberals to campaign for someone like Harris is inconceivable to me

[-] Coca_Cola_but_Commie@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

Genocide is evil and I will oppose it by carrying out my prescribed role in the genocide machine. I’ve heard if you just work hard enough the machine will stop doing genocide and build a welfare state instead.

[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

you won’t defeat it by participating in the system either.

[-] ObamnaSoda@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

Not trying to praise Bernie, but the they basically say 'I like bust actually'

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

For us Bernie or bust meant if this electoralism shit doesn't work out we are gonna bust some fuckin heads.

For this fuckin nerd it meant they were just gonna shrug and give up.

[-] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

bernie or bust out the excuses for the lack of terror

[-] miz@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago
[-] kittin@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

Imagine if someone evil was shooting at these prisoners instead of me

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

the more egregious ignorance in that post is the notion that they are participating in the system

its not a very big club, and you ain't in it

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

Straight up genocide denial. It's the only way I would describe this. Neither Harris or Trump are going to stop the genocide.

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

Torment is bad, which is why we all must do our part and clock in our 16hrs a day at the Torment Nexus type beat

[-] miz@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

won't defeat it by not participating in the system

the system IS genocide and you won't defeat it by participating within it

[-] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

I was a dem soc in 2016, border line "Bernie Bro" or whatever, and still voted Clinton in Florida and the best progressive options I could down ballot.

I got blamed for her losing Florida.

I voted Biden despite this. Even though I was a real leftist is 2020.

Somehow, I'm still to blame.

I ain't falling for this shit this time. They want to piss and cry and fart that I'm a problem. But they won't work to get any of the 50% of eligible voters that are disengaged, only to blame the 0.3% that protest vote. Controlled opposition is too nice, they're just opposition at this point.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

"do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good" MOTHERFUCKER GENOCIDE ISNT GOOD monke-rage

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Bernie or buster in 2016

bulllllllllllshit

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[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

What is the anti-genocide choice because I don't see one.

[-] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Third party options like Jill Stein, cornel West, claudia de La Cruz. But sadly no one with a chance to win this election from what I can tell though.

But If a third party gets a certain percentage of the vote, they get funding and are able to participate in more things in the next election. So not being in a swing state I threw my vote to stein. I'd just love to see a new party challenge the status quo.

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