He said $30,000 for the cybertruck too. $30,000 just seems to be his "I don't really know the price" price.

Didn't he say full self drive was two years away at least 5 years ago?

Now now.

You can't believe anything else he says either.

In "self-driving by 2016" years

Good question.
The Mars base should be started years ago according to what Musk claimed, and they should have manned flights to Mars by now. And all he has is half failed tests just to do one orbit around earth! 🤣🤣🤣

For 8 years he has claimed Fully autonomous driving will be ready next year. He even claimed years ago, that a car picking you up and driving you across the country was something we can do today!

Enron Musk is a conman, he is obviously a liar, and there are people who still believe him?!

Muskrat years.

this could actually work out

No it won't, Elon Next year Musk has promised Fully autonomous driving next year since 2016. He has sold his cars with subscriptions for FSD for years, despite it doesn't work. It's even illegal to call it FSD now, so Tesla has to call it assisted FSD, which is an oxymoron.

With this move, Enron Musk will more likely ensure the continued decline of Tesla. The Cybercab most likely will not be a moneymaker, and the focus on developing it, will detract from Tesla developing much needed new EV models, for a market with increasing competition.

Tesla is far from #1 in developing autonomous driving, so the chances are very slim that they would be even close to be first to market.

AFAIK this is pretty much the current rank:
-1 Waymo (Google)
-2 Mercedes
-3 Mobil Eye
-4 GM (Cruise)
-5 Baidu
-6 Tesla

Possibly Nissan-Renault (WeRide) and Nvidia can match Tesla too.

Notice that Tesla used MobilEye originally up to 2016, but MobilEye ended the partnership after a Tesla model S had a fatal crash. I suspect the irresponsible claims implementation and practices by Elon Musk were too much.

Elon Musk is insane and a con man, to believe anything he claims about the future of his companies is naive.

I believe it involves impossible math, like dividing by 0

I think the general rule of thumb is to shift the units of time up.

If he says 2 weeks, try 2 months. If he says 2 months, wait 2 years.

Robotaxis in 2 decades I think is actually achievable.

Hopefully it's infinity. It's Elon Musk we're talking about. These are 100% going to kill people (pedestrians, other drivers, riders) and animals.

A cab with no driver is just an incredibly expensive gender neutral toilet. I shudder to think what will be done in these if they ever exist.

I agree it is an idiotic design for a cab, but I'd argue the Cybertruck is a way dumber design even by visuals alone. That thing would at least make for a half decent sports car (again, visually).

Normally it's always promised next year, so a 2 year deadline means the project is in serious trouble.

WTF? How can a CEO walk from responsibility by claiming puffery? Which is the same as admitting to lying!
In civilized countries CEO is a position of responsibility, you can't just talk up stock or sales with false claims. The requirements for a CEO are higher than usual, exactly because everything they say can have a financial impact.
I'm pretty sure that judgement is not according to normal practices. It's disgusting they let that pedo walk again and again.

Well, the stock tanked by ~10% after the news, so yeah, shareholders don't seem to be buying it and want more specifics.

Steering-less car that only use camera for their autopilot is gonna be a disaster.

Already is.