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[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 58 points 3 months ago (3 children)

this is some Final Solution level shit right here.

how the fuck is the world letting this happen?

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 50 points 3 months ago

The wealthy part of the world is controlled by Nazis.

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

Because they have an ally with a very big gun on his hip. Politicial change is created from the barrel of a gun and they have lots.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

It benefits the current power of the ruling classes and they know no morality but that which reinforces their power.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most of the bombs and delivery systems are from amerikkka

The United States is ethnically cleansing Northern Gaza. The blowback will be absolutely justified.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 months ago

%30 also is from Germany which is following its proud tradition of ethnic cleansing and genocide.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Keep using the word genocide. This isn't ethnic cleansing and never was.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The term ethnic cleansing has some problematic aspects and in my opinion it should not be used.

First of all, calling a campaign of genocidal mass expulsions a "cleansing" concedes to the racist ideology behind by implying that the victims are "dirt" whose violent removal leaves the place "clean" and better than it was before.

Unlike the term genocide which elicits a moral reaction in must people and has a clear meaning in international law, the term "ethnic cleansing" sounds less severe and calling something an "ethnic cleansing" does not impose any legal obligations on either the perpetrators or other international actors. By being so vaguely defined it allows disingenuous outside actors to talk the talk of condemning what is going on without having to walk the walk of taking material actions to stop it from happening.

"Ethnic cleansing" has a history of being used to whitewash genocide, making clearly genocidal acts sound more palatable to casual observers.

Instead, I think the term genocide is better in most cases. If you want to discuss the specific genocidal act of removing a tergeted population from an area, value-neutral descriptive terms like "forced population transfer" are to be preferred over euphemisms like "ethnic cleansing" in my view.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Always hated the term ethnic cleansing for the reasons you stated. Doing PR softening on the word genocide and implying the perpetrators are doing good through use of the word 'cleansing'.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Strong agree from me; cleansing isn't a word to describe terror.

gold-communist

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 46 points 3 months ago

all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And Zionists will tell you with a straight face that saying Israel is committing genocide is antisemitic.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 months ago

zionists will tell you stright face "arabs must stop doing terrorism"

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This "general plan" has the same aims as general plan ost. This is an extermination not an ethnic cleansing and calling it that is minimizing what is happening.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

Generalplan Coast

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What is the practical difference between "ethnic cleansing" and genocide? I always thought they were just different terms for the same thing (specifically that "ethnic cleansing" was the more hitlerian manner of speech).

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Genocide is intended to kill everyone in the target group. Ethnic cleansing includes genocide, but also mass deportation/expulsion.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hearing some word on the vine. They're seperating men and women taking men to undisclosed areas blindfolded. Like khal Younis they will meet a grim fate. This is monstrous

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow this proves how nuanced and both sided this conflict is! Don’t forget to vote (for the candidate I want).

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

It's gotten so hard to laugh at this joke; saying libs are ghoulish is an understatement. The election hasn't occurred yet and the genocide is at final solution levels with Kamala's full cackling support, with libs openly laughing when protesters tell them what's happening.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What did the killing of Yahya Sinwar signal, to cause the occupation's extermination to go into overdrive? Were they that scared of him?

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

they started this final solution level shit in northern gaza before he died.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Ya they were mentioning it couple weeks ago weren't they? It's just still rolling along.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

I hate it here

amerikkka

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

the only good israeli is a dead israeli

Death to America

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

It breaks my heart that I can't even engage in social media about this. The first 6 months of this iteration of Israeli violence nearly broke me as a person.

I don't have any words for this horror.