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Both parties are anti-union, against free college and anti-migrants but sure keep voting for blue fascists will make the country better

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[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago

"keep voting until 50% of the country stops voting for the fascists" yea that is already done. 99% of Amerikkkans are now voting for fascists. What is the next phase?

[-] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Tbf realistically only 50% of the country will actually vote for fascists. Most of the rest just won't vote.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What shifts people left? [list of things democrats oppose]

[-] Des@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

yeah the fantasy "progressives" have about what the democrats actually believe in really amuses me sometimes. they love to convince themselves it's a party full of Bernies with just a few naughty neoliberals there to derail their great, "progressive" vision

[-] Runcible@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

I think the overall democratic voter base is substantially left of the party apparatus but it is hard to be certain

[-] Des@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

it is. in that convoluted American way. i mean i can sell market socialism to almost anyone i talk to that isn't a boss, dems and reps included

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

-> Vote to stop fascism, we can push Hillary left, trust me! Vote blue no matter who!

... 4 years later

-> Vote to stop fascism, we can push Biden left, trust me! Vote blue no matter who!

... 4 years later

-> Vote to stop fascism, we can push Kamala left, trust me! Vote blue no matter who!

:clueless:

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

we defeated authoritarianism

jagoff

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

I think InternetHippo was saying that to remark on the absurdity, not actually agreeing.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

Oh, you're right. I skimmed too quickly. It's a good bit!

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Libs: authoritarian communist states are so bad theres no political freedom!!!

Also libs: if you dont vote for this particular party democracy will literally end and life as we know it is over.

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

Libs: authoritarian communist states are so bad theres no political freedom!!!

Also libs: if you dont vote for this particular party democracy will literally end and life as we know it is over.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

What are we doing here bruh

Literally everything this clown said is opposed by the blue fascists. What are you actually achieving, you cretin? Just change your channel name and tell your grooming targets that it's joever, you're NazismDoneLeft now.

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

His dad is a fucking arms dealer, believe there's some shit floating around where he was saying slurs in some Discord servers but it was totally ironic you have to believe him.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

my pet peeve is when libs talk about "half the country" deciding the outcome of an election when in fact its less than half of the people who actually voted, which is itself around half of elgiible adults, which is itself about 2/3rds of the country. So multiply all those together and the president usually has an explicit mandate from around 1/6th of the country.

never mind that it's moot because the options on the table are preselected for us by capital, and this year we're getting fascism no matter what.

[-] newacctidk@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

Republicans are minoritarian even among voters. Reminds me of when chapo reviewed the Pfeifer book and he said "I dont believe in casting aside a third of the country as a way to win", and Matt fucking screamed

https://youtu.be/RgMci9k6UbA?t=2329

morally democrats cannot afford to cede these voters to the republicans they have to i am resistant to any strategy that says we give up on a third of the country

Wait a THIR...a THIRD!?!? There's two fucking parties. IF YOU ONLY HAVE TO GIVE UP ON A THIRD YOU'RE FUCKING GOLDEN.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

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[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

I'd have to go look it up, but it was something like 35%ish of all American adults voted for Trump in 2016. I remember the number was being compared to Hitler winning only 30% of the vote when the nazis took power.

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Socialism Done Left is the creepy bigoted radlib gooner chaser who isn't Vaush, right?

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Correct, he's just close friends with funny-clown-hammer

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Liberals have this fantasy of the Republicans simply fading to obscurity one day and that's when we can worry about adopting leftist policies but it doesn't make any sense and completely ignores why Trump became a thing in the first place. If you associate yourself with the status quo without doing things necessary for the status quo to actually work for people, you're going to lose people to whatever the alternative is.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Oh. Succdems.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

Truly, I have a dream of a time where we could vote for 98% Hitler. >.>

[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Wait, are we looking at a linear or exponential decrease in the Hitlerism?

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

damn everyone was right about SocDoneLeft

[-] Lurker123@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

With respect to the union point, Abruzzo at the NLRB has been pretty based. She rescinded the Trump era directives (which were super employer sided, see for example his NLRB GC’s ridiculous workplace salting and union representative directives) and replaced them with union sided directives. This has resulted in several challenges and overrulings of long-standing pro-employer precedent (see e.g. cemex, overruling a 1969 precedent). And the Biden board members have been significantly more union sided than trumps (cemex was a party-line split vote among the board, and there were several anti-Amazon and Starbucks rulings that made the news early in Biden’s presidency if you recall).

This union-friendly NLRB is probably, in part, why the number of union applications has doubled compared to Trump’s term. For context, forget about how massive of an increase doubling is - this is the first time the amount of union applications has increased between presidential terms at all in the last 50 years.

This is not to say “vote blue no matter who” or even “vote.” in the first place. You do you. But I think it’s important that your decision to do whatever you will is made on the facts. And there is a pretty material gulf between Biden and Trump’s NLRB board and NLRB GC.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Isn’t that one of the people Kamala said she’d likely replace?

[-] Lurker123@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

I’m not aware of this, and some quick google searching isn’t revealing anything. Do you have a source for this?

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Sorry I had it mixed up, I was thinking of Lina Khan, the FTC chair

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