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Abuse is abuse rule (lemmy.world)
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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 212 points 1 month ago

I was once seeing a girl for a couple weeks that FUCKING ROOFIED MY DRINK so she could look through my phone while I was lying there watching her unable to move. It was absolutely fucked.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago

That's horrible, I hope you're doing better now

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 103 points 1 month ago

I’m married now, and this was over a decade ago. As soon as I was able to function again I kicked her out of my house and never spoke to her again.

[-] innermeerkat@jlai.lu 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From « a couple weeks ago », to « I’m married now » oh boy, that escalated quickly but then I saw the decades word! Good for you you were able to ditch this abuser.

Edit: ha, I misread the whole thing, my bad

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[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 month ago

Good thing you managed to stay conscious, holy shit!
Didn't even know that was possible

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[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 month ago

Terrifying. I've had other reasons to only use a passcode, but now I have another.

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[-] Willie@lemmy.world 151 points 1 month ago

But the only place men have to go to is an imaginary fish thing.

[-] Schmeckinger@lemmy.world 93 points 1 month ago

You leave blobby alone. He is trying his best.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 month ago

Poor thing's been ripped from its habitat into this cruel low pressure environment .

[-] vaguerant@fedia.io 21 points 1 month ago

Return all the Alarmos to the sea from whence they came.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago
[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unfortunately the image of them around the internet and educational book aren't. Those are what left of them after getting drag into the atmosphere they're not used to in high speed. It's like showing a decayed corpse of human and say "this is what human actually looks like".

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[-] LongboardingLad@lemmy.world 143 points 1 month ago

Thanks for posting this! Being male and being abused is a very isolating experience on many levels. I wish good things upon you, friend.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

🫂

I am hoping for better things and healthier relationships in your future

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[-] Sombyr@lemmy.zip 133 points 1 month ago

Really applies to most things. I'm not a dude, trans woman, but I've gotten sexually harassed a lot both pre and post transition and the response I got pre and post transition is night and day. Pretransition people treated me like I was crazy for feeling unsafe and like I was supposed to enjoy it.
Honestly, men should be allowed to feel unsafe around women, or really allowed to feel unsafe in general, and be taken seriously for it.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago

One downfall of what I only hesitantly refer to as modern feminism (although really I'm talking about terfs and the terf-adjacent) is that it has painted men as dangerous by default. I'm also a trans woman so I've seen both sides of the coin, too... I do feel less safe now, this is true. Many things were easier when I was living as a man. But I was never dangerous or an abuser.

Nonetheless, a former partner used accusations of abuse against me and turned so many people on me. The only ones that stuck by me were former romantic partners, who knew the accusations couldn't have been true. For everyone else, it was so easy to accept that a man - even a clearly gentle one - would be an abuser.

In reality I've been a victim of abuse - physical, emotional, sexual... All long before I transitioned.

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[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 22 points 1 month ago

I'm a guy.

I've been sexually assaulted multiple times in my life by both genders. The last time was at the hands of a boyfriend who made me no longer want to be Bi. I haven't been with another guy since and only date female now.

Honestly the response has never been in my favor. At the hands women it was ignored or blamed on me and by men I was told that I should have enjoyed it more. I've been belittled for not being gay enough to take being assaulted in public. And told I was being a problem for having it done to me in a work setting with apologies made for the perpetrator and then myself sent away.

I never get to feel unsafe and I never have gotten to feel seen for it. Not by other men. Not by the LGBTQ community, not by women, not even by doctors. It's devastating and yet there apparently is no right time to ever bring it forward. It's horrible that it feels we have specific socially acceptable ways to be traumatized and most of them are against men. And yet the loudest resistance feels like from the people being hypocrites cause it makes for an easier narrative.

I don't like people anymore.

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[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 96 points 1 month ago

Woah stop making men feel safe and seen. Next thing they'll become feminists, or worse, empathetic and caring humans!

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[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago

abusers are trash, no matter what their gender. May they all rot.

[-] Catpurple@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 1 month ago

An abusive partner accusing the other of cheating is very often a projection of the fact they themselves had been cheating. Since they know they would cheat, and were/are, they either assume the other person is the same way, or simply don't want to draw attention to their affair. It's an awful thing.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 17 points 1 month ago

It can also be a sign of past trauma. I.E. they were chested on before, and are projecting the behaviors of the past onto you. Also awful, but in a much more sad way.

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[-] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago

Al..right. Let's do a little sanity check and let's see how up or downvoted is gets.

  1. It is absolutely true that violence against women is structurally endemic in our societies and they represent a large majority of domestic violence
  2. It is also absolutely true that domestic violence against men is clearly under-reported, to an unknown but significant extant
  3. It is absolutely true that abuse is abuse

Those assertions do not contradict each other.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

100% on all points

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[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This reminds me of the Heard v Depp case, on the two X chromosomes subreddit there was this long ass comment from someone who experienced abuse and said she wasn't the "perfect victim" because she fought back and hurt her abuser back and how because of this it was harder to get away from her abuser.

And when I asked how does she know that in Heard v Depp case it isn't Depp who is the imperfect victim? Because he had multiple partners testifying to his character of being a kind man etc, while Heard had the opposite (AFAIK).

All I got was silence and downvotes.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

And the men's lib sub is the best we will get when it comes to men's issues and that one sucks too.

[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

The mens rights sub originally was a good place for dudes who were getting taken to the cleaners in divorce court, losing full custody of the kids just because the mom wanted em, and even an instance iirc of the wife taking the dog only to have em put down later.

Then it slowly mutated into a watered down version of incels

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

I mean that's bound to happen. If the main thing that draws you to a space is that you're all being abused by women in one way or another, then it's probably going to end up being a place to hate on women and therefore attract women haters like incels.

Men's lib should be a space where we fight the injustices imposed on men by the dominant hierarchy. Like the fact that we're assumed to be worse at caring for our kids than their mothers and that this assumption disadvantages us in court. Or the fact we're assumed to be abusers and that being a victim somehow makes us be seen as lesser men and automatically deserving of the abuse we get (like in this comic). Or the fact that we're assumed to BE/BE PART OF the dominant hierarchy and therefore can't be victims of it, even though we can lose our "manlyness" through something as simple or human as crying when we're sad.

Only with this mindset can we channel our victimisation into positive action rather than towards hatred of women.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 49 points 1 month ago

I am a 6'6'', 280lbs man and my ex-wife was a 4'7'' 97lbs woman. She would hit me and psychologically abuse me a lot, and nobody would give a shit because "how can she hurt you? You're such a big guy!"

She would use weapons, you bastards! She would hit me while I was asleep! She would hit me in the nuts! And even if it didn't always physically hurt, it definitely hurt in other ways. Fuck off with that mentality.

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[-] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 month ago

My wife once hit me in front of my kids because she didn't like my pointing out a double standard in how she was treating them. The one she was favoring recently started hitting the other one in a similar manner--basically just to silence her when she said something he didn't like--and when I pointed out the similarity to my wife's actions and suggested he had learned it from her she got mad and claimed that rather than hitting me she had "hit my hand away" which is a lie and she knows it. It is 100% classic spousal abuse and gaslighting, and yet due to the sheer size difference between us--I'm a foot taller--I feel ridiculous calling it that, and don't want to find out what else my son learns is OK from his mom if I'm not around, so here I am still married to her, mostly trying to forget the abuse when it's not actively happening. She's been abusive, but I'm not really in any physical danger, so staying seems like the rational option in my situation... I imagine that's relatively common among men.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hey man, I don't know your situation and all the details, but it's not at all ridiculous to call it spousal abuse or gaslighting. That's fucking dark, and that your son is picking up on it is darker. Your other kid likely isn't blind to it either, especially since she's started receiving that sort of treatment and being treated as the scapegoat. That sort of situation leaves deep scars on both spouse (you) and children. You don't have to be in physical danger (though abuse often escalates) to be in danger. Damage from abuse lasts a lifetime.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

I have a friend who I haven't been able to hang out with for several years because his wife is insane and posessive, and he's decided to just ride it out until the kids are all 18 so he can divorce her without having to pay her child support.

He'll still support his children, but he'll do it directly instead of through her.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s me, your buddy - well maybe not your exact buddy but a dude living in this same scenario.

Please hang out when that last kid turns 18 and we are free. It’s horribly lonely and there is no one to help. Getting a divorce just means she gets everything including all the time in the world to manipulate the kids.

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[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

My ex-wife was arrested for slapping me and breaking my glasses.

Like many other victims of abuse, I stayed married for several more years. Been away from that nutjob since 2009.

[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Literally my ex, any the typical reactions, where somehow I'm to blame for her insanity, because men are all bad and women are always right.

Ironically, she was cheating. Its always projection with the psychopaths.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

I guess if she's suspecting other women, it's up to the bros to be there for him. Remember to support your bros and get them to seek help! (There's nothing unmanly about heart to hearts about abuse).

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks, Mr. Blobfish! That's funny, I don't recall taking Ambien...

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I have been abused by both my mom and my partners. They took advantage of my insecurities, because of their insecurities. No one ever acknowledged it until recently. I have no trust in ever getting a relationship with someone who treats me equally. According to my therapists, I responded by turning into myself instead of developing a personality disorder. Apparently I'm too sweet.

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