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What is your favorite Fediverse platform? (lemmy.autism.place)

submitted 2 weeks ago by VanHalbgott@lemmy.autism.place to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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I'll go first...

My favorite Fediverse platforms as of 2024

Mastodon - my main social feed platform that first introduced me to the Fediverse in general.
Lemmy - my second main social feed platform that originally substituted Reddit from years ago.
Matrix protocol - communication platform I use to connect with users on the Lemmy instance I'm on
Peertube - would love to get an account going and use it more often but still don't know how but there's FediVideo.
Bookwyrm - Goodreads alternative that I signed up for that could use more work for a genuine reading tracker.

BONUS: my least favorite Fediverse platform lately

WordPress - because I used to run art blogs on there before I heard word about drama about the CEO of the corporation so I basically had to put out my last existing art blog...RIP.

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[-] Blaze@feddit.org 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lemmy, shortly followed by Piefed.

Will probably switch once Piefed gets mobile apps support and comments view

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 23 points 2 weeks ago

What's so good about PieFed?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Much more advanced moderation tools: https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

Actual instance blocking compared to the incomplete "mute communities" instance blocking on Lemmy

Development seems fasters than Lemmy, they are almost at feature parity while being much younger

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 15 points 2 weeks ago

On the other hand, it has some weirdly opinionated features:

Hiding downvoted comments (mob rule)
Marking people with many downvotes as "low reputation". I get it, getting many downvotes is a bad sign but I don't think the software should try to make a ruling here, I think human moderators should look at the whole picture. It doesn't make you a bad person that people disagree with you.
Communities organized into "topics" - I'm not certain if these groupings are decided by the dev or the admin? Either way I find it a bit problematic.
Marking certain communities as "low effort" and not counting "reputation" for those. I don't feel like the software should be making this kind of value judgement.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If it helps:

this is controlled by a user setting. I left the one that automatically "collapses" comments below a threshold at the default, but I disabled the one that "hides" comments by setting the threshold to -10000. So, far from taking away user power, it strictly enhances choices by providing new options, only at the user's behest.
it does have such a "reputation" feature, as too does life. Someone who constantly trolls others gets rather "known" for such. But crucially, it's a label - it doesn't hide anything, only enhances what is already there. And yeah it's a bit of an experiment, perhaps it won't work. Or perhaps it will be improved further? Based on the above and the responsiveness of the devs, I would expect complete control if features were ever added to actually do anything wrt this score.

Btw apps already have something similar, as too does PieFed, when adding a label for new accounts - bc people have asked for it, and it can be helpful to know when talking with someone that they are a new account (perhaps they are an alt, but it's something, and again it's just a label).

Yeah, I constantly get downvoted - and some of my posts are among the most heavily downvoted content existing in certain communities (but I also note that such things as Innuendo Studios The Alt Right Playbook got heavily downvoted by the same community as well so... I feel vindicated:-). So I mean it when I say that believe me I KNOW what you mean when expressing those concerns. Perhaps the experiment won't work out, or perhaps it merely needs tuning - e.g. so that any one post or comment doesn't weigh so heavily but rather only their aggregate (median rather than mean perhaps? or maybe only the binary choice of positive or negative total score, and even then perhaps not centered at zero but something more highly negative like -10?).

Also PieFed.social has defederated from hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml, so those sources of downvoting are entirely removed. It also preferentially weights scores more highly feedback from those with high reputation already - which state I achieved in roughly a week and with only two posts, one a cross-post of the other even. So it's not like seniors are locking out the noobs.

Anyway yes there's enormous potential for misuse there, but it's also something that people have been clamoring for - so it's something that they are being responsive enough to try it out?

I'm not sure about the categories - but again the devs are very responsive so surely easy to change things? Also I've definitely joined communities that aren't in those, and while there are large federation issues with any non-Lemmy.World instance right now (I see the same from many instances including my 2 alt accounts elsewhere - so it has little to nothing to do with PieFed; especially after the enormous surge in content surrounding the USA election), I believe that they show up in the main feed.
I have never heard that before but I would support it - more "experimental" communities should be allowed, to try things out, a "safe space" if you will:-).

All of these are valid concerns - and seem like they are being worked on.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't really help for me, but the beauty of the fediverse is that it doesn't have to. You can like PieFed, I can prefer Lemmy and we can both still talk :)

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[-] dborba@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly assigning a label to users that everyone can see based on other users' opinions seems like a bad idea anyway you put it. Independent of it's intention, it can stifle constructive arguments, encourage mass alt accounts, cause classism and mobbing. There is a Black Mirror episode with this exact premise where it impacts your real life reputation, people's perceptions of you & what you're allowed to do.

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[-] tron@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

I looked thru this blog hopeful that there would be protection against mod abuse. Instead you can get banned for downvoting? I don't want to be looking over my back because some dipshit mod had a bad take. This is generating way too much analytical data on users. Communities don't need empowered super mods treating users like numbers on a spreadsheet. Lemmy for sure has problems (ml) but this isn't the answer.

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[-] jwr1@kbin.earth 9 points 2 weeks ago

Piefed just needs an api, then we can add supoort as app developers.

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[-] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, Lemmy is the only one with content that appeals to me so far (at least to my knowledge, given the near-unsearchable nature of the fediverseso far). The platforms just aren't large enough.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago

Iirc Mastodon is about to add a global search function. I've never used it, nor even Twitter (back before it was cancelled into X), just passing on what I heard.

And PieFed and Mbin are also sort of "Lemmy" (though neither in that graphic that I saw:-).

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago

And PieFed and Mbin are also sort of “Lemmy” (though neither in that graphic that I saw:-).

It is quite an old graphic.

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[-] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure Kbin is dead and gone, might want to update your tree.

[-] b00m@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I think fedia.io seems to scratch the itch

[-] Traumkaempfer@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

I‘m pretty sure fedia.io is running on mbin, a clone of kbin that is still being maintained.

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[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Lemmy, I like the simple post structure with all related commentary under the original submission.

Mastodon is fine for people who like it but it's hard to follow the thread of replies as every reply is its own individual post.

I guess the twatter format makes sense for dashing off quick messages but I find it hard to follow and it's difficult to find communities and topics of interest without also including a shit-ton of noise along with the signal.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

kbin obviously!

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

Mbin now!

God willing ernst comes back

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[-] secret300 14 points 2 weeks ago

For me it's definitely Lemmy. I don't like the microblogging format and never have. I've always used forums and then reddit.

The fediverse just works so well with Lemmy I think. It's so fun seeing new communities from instances I've never heard of. I think this format is perfect for the fediverse

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[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Mastodon. Easily better than Twitter in every way, even when it wasn’t full of garbage. Can’t say the same for Lemmy, it’s not bad, and in some ways better but in some ways worse.

[-] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

Lemmy
Mastodon
Pixelfed
Various Misskey forks that are all about the same
Peertube

Lemmy has eaten up just about all the time I used to spend on Mastodon. Pixelfed would be in the running for #1 if it hadn't become so vaporware-y in the last few months.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

mbin!

[-] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that chart needs to be updated. AFAIK no instance is still on kbin, everything has gone to mbin. It's also missing pyfedi/piefed

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[-] eldrichhydralisk@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

Mastodon has successfully replaced Twitter for me, so it's by far my favorite. It does still need better tools for dealing with large-scale posts and users, but overall it feels like it's actually doing the job I want done.

I want to like Piefed/Lemmy more than I actually do. The Fediverse answer to Reddit just doesn't feel ready for prime time yet. It's hard to find/connect with communities and the user base doesn't have that "can address basically any question" magic.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

I've tried mastodon and followed a couple people. But I never did Twitter either. Could you recommend how I could best use mastodon? Who to follow, or for to sort/search out whatever what's popular? I couldn't figure it out

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[-] viking@infosec.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago

Nextcloud is federated? First time I hear about that.

For me it's Lemmy, without a doubt. Never used Twitter, tried mastodon to see what it's all about, didn't like it.

Matrix seems decent, but nobody I know uses it, and finding useful groups is painful, especially on other instances (servers, whatever they call them).

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago

Also, I am confused at why nextcloud is at the intersection of networking, music, and multimedia.

Yes it technically has a video viewer and music player, but I would be very surprised if any person in the world right now is genuinely using it to post that content to the fediverse social-network style.

[-] delightfuldude@lemmy.criticalbasics.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

Nextcloud is federated?

https://nextcloud.com/blog/federation-a-foundational-concept-for-digital-sovereignty/

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

I only use Lemmy, so... Lemmy.

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[-] Cossty@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I really wanted to like bookwyrm and use it but it's just so bare bones. Instead, I switched from goodreads to StoryGraph like two years ago. I really like some of its features like content warnings, moods, very detailed stats of my reading habits, etc.

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[-] kirbowo808@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

Mine is…..

Wafrn (endless customisations unlike Misskey and Sharkey) and has react buttons too with extra features such as anonymous questions etc. Basically Tumblr but way better and FOSS too.
Mastodon, very stable, great way to find out current events with minimal reactive posts etc. It just works.
Mbin, a very much more stable and regularly updated fork of kbin, and getting the best of both worlds without having to use Lemmy, due to the problematic nature of Lemmy creators.
BookWyrm, ethical version of GoodReads (and gives you control to add books that are not on the system, enhancing your experience and overall much better than GoodReads imo.

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[-] hankskyjames777@thebrainbin.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

A Roblox alternative in the fediverse.

Because I want to get off Roblox.

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[-] vittoria666@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Lemmy. I love to read the posts and play the media.

[-] nate@social.trom.tf 8 points 2 weeks ago

@VanHalbgott I like friendica, it works with Lemmy, microblogging platforms, and macroblogging platforms. I'm maybe not online as much as the average user (and often read fediverse content via bridges instead of nativly), so it's a nice consolation of everything. It also supports rich text and higher char limits for more nuanced posts/replies.

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[-] lizard-socks@pandacap.azurewebsites.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like there's still a pretty big gap in the drawing / art space. I want something that works like the furry art sites all work, which means (a) art posts and text posts separated into distinct feeds, and (b) thumbnails in a grid instead of a vertical timeline. I built a web app to do this but unfortunately it's single-user (and basically locked to the Azure cloud). In the meantime, Pixelfed works pretty well for following Mastodon artists.

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[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

I am finding I like Mastodon the best. Lemmy has potential, but I think the political extremism and lack of hobbyist culture here currently, mixed with the incredibly confusing on-boarding process beginners have to navigate, along with the name, all contribute to making it DOA.

[-] Marzanna@yiffit.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

There is Matrix but no XMPP :(

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Which one should I join for funny or time killing content?

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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 6 points 2 weeks ago

Lemmy of course. I love the forum format and it's a great place to fediverse content from another plateforme. I post here with alt on Bookwyrm, Forkkey and PixelFed. I can't wait to share a Loop on my favorite community. But to read content from all over the fediverse, it is best to have an account on the twittoverse. I use Sharkey. I can access so much content that's not on Lemmy. It is much less of an echo chamber plus there is lots of people and I can still post to Lemmy.

[-] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Out of curiosity rather than necessity, are there any activitypub based messaging apps (i.e matrix/discord-like)?

One not listed is Ibis (https://ibis.wiki/) which hasn't had much traction. Honestly unsure of how useful it is as a direct wikipedia replacement but i can see it as a cool idea for a bunch of related communities that would otherwise be on separate wikis.

[-] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ibis is really early days. I hosted it for a bit and had things like federation issues and softlocks. Will be really interesting when it's a bit more mature though.