Your body, my choice? Seriously? Some very broken little boys out there.
I queued with two guys in a video game Wednesday morning who spouted that line. I was taken aback. How do you effectively respond to someone who says that? I didn't handle it well, but I have thought about it a lot since it happened. I remember playing with shock humor when I was in high school, but that is beyond the pale.
I stopped playing online games some years back because this sort of thing was far too common. And I bet it's even worse now.
Exactly. I play lots of games (anything with a story and decent ratings), but haven't bothered with multiplayer in probably a decade. Too many children and terrible people that will ruin the experience.
Related: I wish more people would simply choose to abandon every fucking thing that is infested with abuse, trolls, propagandists, bots, or just has terrible moderation. (I recently tried Bluesky and was amazed by the innovative user-controlled moderating tools, which puts all others to shame.)
Sometimes asking them to explain the joke will be enough to get them feeling embarrassed. If there’s multiple guys throwing this shit around that tactic could easily backfire, though.
I have found that calmly locking eyes with someone that says something like that and asking them what that means tends to completely shake them. If it's a group of them, it may work, or they'll just resort to throwing lines that have been prewritten for them back and forth. Still, even then, asking them to explain what that means tends to blunt all their fun.
The key part is to not show any kind of emotion - innocently ask them what that means. Maybe even a slight smile. It totally ruins it for them. They want to feed off of outrage.
Tell them about Lorena Bobbitt. Modern women can learn a lot from her failure to dispose of the dick properly.
(The tactic is to shock them right back)
Some very broken little boys out there.
Unfortunately there are many. And no matter what their interests are, whether it's sports, video games, or going to the gym, there are right-wing groups who have set up shop to welcome them to their side. They provide them fraternity, an in-group to be part of, share their common interest, and pump a steady stream of misogyny and bigotry to normalize it.
And it worked.
That is absolutely horrifying
Democrats' outreach to young people has been lectures and telling them they're too insignificant to care about. What did you expect would happen?
Meanwhile, Republicans told them validating lies.
It’s more than just Democrats, it’s society in general.
You can’t enlist the support of an entire gender by telling them that they are the source of all of society’s evils, and that they themselves are fundamentally evil no matter what, that they are all rapists-in-training, that the world would be better off if they were all killed, and that they are no better than vermin. And more importantly: that when they do something objectionable it is misogyny and bigoted and disgusting and (with some things) even illegal, but when women do it, it is a big nothingburger with zero consequences for the woman.
That’s how you alienate them and push them away.
And the alt-right has stepped in with comforting lies.
Is it any wonder that men have turned away from the left? There is absolutely no visible benefit for them there. So they have gone to where they are openly wanted and desired, where they are intentionally made to feel useful and valued… even though they are just pawns in a class war (Parasite Class vs working class), and will only ever be hurt by those they support.
You can’t enlist the support of an entire gender by telling them that they are the source of all of society’s evils, and that they themselves are fundamentally evil no matter what, that they are all rapists-in-training, that the world would be better off if they were all killed, and that they are no better than vermin. And more importantly: that when they do something objectionable it is misogyny and bigoted and disgusting and (with some things) even illegal, but when women do it, it is a big nothingburger with zero consequences for the woman.
Where in the Democrat platform says all this? You're using the lies the right uses.
Where in the Democrat platform says all this?
It doesn’t. Hence,
it’s society in general.
That’s the source. Not politics, society. In fact, politics - aside from the laws implemented, which can be exceedingly bigoted and sexist while attempting to be about equality - doesn’t say much about this at all.
Hardly. As a generally liberal person.. I see that the amount of scrutiny white young men go through is more than normal.
They are literally out there right now with their "your body, my choice" bullshit proving why we they deserved scrutiny in the first place. And where did this "white" shit come from? I hadn't read it was only white guys doing this.
This seems very off to me. Like it's manufactured. It might be true. But most of the young men I know hate that guy. And all that he stands for. It's hard to imagine them voting on his side.
We all have our anecdotal experiences. If you're a college student or graduate, going to school or working in an urban environment or coastal state, the data may not reflect your lived experience. But this has been the growing trend in national polls for some time now.
There's also an increasing generational component to this, as millennials age out of the 18-29 demographic. If you're a millennial, this shift may feel even more incomprehensible as millennials appear resistant to the typical conservative shift as they've aged.
Yeah its so rapey, its almost unbelievable.
Well, he is an incel. A lot of that whiney bunch seem to think they are owed sex or something. Explains a lot of creepy winger behavior.
My first thought is that it's about denying abortion, but yeah, it'll escalate into rapey real quick.
Nazis like to do a "you think that was a shitty thing to say? That's nothing! Hold my beer!" kind of thing.
It seriously explains a ton of their behavior.
To elicit a response is to feel powerful. The greater the response, the more power perceived. It's a self worth issue. America is dying from low self esteem. The bravado we project is just some small dick energy, over compensation. We are a nation of people trying to buy an identity from a car dealership. Presently this yearning for purpose has been disastrously harnessed by jackals.
And yet, after this election, this statement isn't incorrect.
The US elects a misogynistic fascist, and misogynists feel emboldened. Who could have seen this coming? I'm as surprised as y'all are—which is to say: not at all.
Nick ‘having sex with women is gay’ Fuentes
Great vid https://xcancel.com/abughazalehkat/status/1597340657005506560
Yeah, he's either in the closet, or hopefully an incel. I sure hope no woman ever has sex with this asshole. What a dweeb.
He claims to be an incel but then brags about how being celibate is him making a great choice, which would make him a volcel.
Toxic piece of shit either way, though.
Real men fuck men
Absolutely disgusting to hear it being said. I hope I get a chance to "correct" someone for doing this, as someone with daughters. That shit don't fly.
If he's so white, why is his last name Fuentes? Sounds like maybe he's not "inner circle" material. Maybe he's employing some classic misdirection so the True Whites don't notice.
Dipshits like him obviously haven't paid much attention to history, because if history is any lesson, even the True Whites are fodder for lots of (sometimes literal) backstabbing and purges and ideological witch hunts. I'm sure other wingers can and will find reasons to cast him out - the last name, as you point out, and also the fact that he is an incel/possibly closeted - I bet even a lot of unhinged wingers might find that a bit weird for him to say that dating women is gay.
Everyone get offline, surfs no good
Yeah, we all know. We have known for a long time. This isn't news.
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