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[-] garfaagel@sh.itjust.works 113 points 2 months ago

All fun and games until it happens with nazism instead of slime.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 43 points 2 months ago

Unless it's how to get your 100 Nazi scalps.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ew gross.

I'm not going to keep the scalps of any Nazi I kill while defending my home and loved ones.

I'll just use pen and paper to keep track.

(I'm not bothered by your comment at all, but am attempting to humorously "yes, and" with it.

I am attempting a homorous misdirect where the reader thinks I'm disgusted by threatening to kill Nazis, but then I'm actually just offended by inefficient messy ways of keeping tracked track of any killed Nazis.)

[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

The second paragraph of explanation being bigger than the whole joke wraps back around to being hilarious.

[-] impudentmortal@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

But it makes me wonder if they know it's a reference to Inglorious Basterds

[-] femtech@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I like a clean, minimalist space. No plants, not many picture frames. Definitely would need an excel spreadsheet lol

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

The DuoScalpy streak

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

It's not getting updated anymore, unfortunately, but this is a cool webpage to get a feel for that: http://www.their.tube/

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago

This is not a story of the algorithm predicting what you like. It's showing if you expose a human to the same content over and over again. It can change their way of thinking in order to like the thing they are exposed to. Even more so if they don't know how it works and the person think everyone is into slime. I need to be into it too to fit in. It's very powerful if you want to manipulate populous. It's algorithm induced Stockholm Syndrome.

[-] Kelly@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

It's showing if you expose a human to the same content over and over again. It can change their way of thinking in order to like the thing they are exposed to.

See also: top 40 radio

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

You don't even need an algorithm to do it either. I didn't use Linux when I signed up for Lemmy...

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It's not always a bad thing lol

[-] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 months ago

The phrase "ok slimers" legitimately made me laugh out loud

[-] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 41 points 2 months ago

I’m certain my YouTube feed is trying to radicalize me into some kind of culture warrior. It’s really annoying. I deleted all of my watch history to try and reset it and it just got way worse real quick. I watch one stupid video, now all I see are angry tubers upset that people don’t think exactly like they do and enjoy things they don’t. Then they convince themselves they’re more enlightened than anyone else because they make this content and ban anyone who makes fun of them, all while claiming to be “free speech advocates” of course.

YouTube got bad so fast it’s left my head spinning.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 23 points 2 months ago

Have you tried clicking the 3 dots on these outrage videos and selecting "don't recommend channel" or a mix of that and "not interested?" I started to see a bunch of right wing political trash in my feed a while back since a lot of my watched videos could be considered adjacent (cars/trucks/offroading/home improvement/dash cam vids/etc) to what these people like and I haven't really had this issue again.

[-] rothaine@lemm.ee 30 points 2 months ago

It's wild that right wingers are always complaining about big tech censoring them when YouTube and Facebook are pushing far-right content so much

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's wild that right wingers are always complaining about big tech censoring them when YouTube and Facebook are pushing far-right content so much

I've got a conspiracy theory about this:

  1. Everyone likes kittens.
  2. Some of us who like kittens think about how to act decently to each-other, some of the time.

Leading to:

  1. Right wingers who like kittens will sometimes see something "woke" in their algorithm feed, and they feel attacked.
[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 10 points 2 months ago

They still think that YouTube and Facebook are representative of the average person. They don't understand how incredible curated those feeds are. I think that's where some of the "silent majority" mythos comes from. Everything they see is people agreeing with them, therefore it's impossible that Joe Biden got more votes in 2020.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I have done this. I have told them not to post me shit from channels, and topics, over, and over. Best it seems it can go is like 2 months. When I tried deleting my history, and turning it off, it got SO MUCH WORSE. Even making a new account was orders of magnitude worse. As sad as it is, I am actually getting a better result... I have long been at the point where I do not click on things I am not familiar with, or without suggestion from a trusted source. So I just don't look at recommended anymore. Just look for the indicator of new stuff from my subs, or look at things I specifically search for.

[-] Jyrdano@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Yup, last week Ive clicked on a YT video of certain game, shut it down about 1 minute in after realising it was just another rage-baiting angry youtuber lamenting how the game is too woke. Now all I get is recommendations of angry anti-woke youtube videos bashing the game I actually enjoy.

[-] Renacles@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Veilguard? I keep blocking those channels.

[-] Jyrdano@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I was being vague to derailing this thread off topic too much.

[-] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 7 points 2 months ago

I started with a clean profile: I never log in to YT so it's just using a local cookie you can always clear to start over.

Anyways, I just searched a few sciencey things to feed the algorithm and now I'm getting loads of crazy fake "science" and conspiracies and the rest is all extremist right wing bullshit.

YouTube is getting useless.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

you can turn off watch history all together and it will just give you generic related videos on the side.

[-] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

All I get recommended are craft and history videos.

[-] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I get comedy skits and indie games with a splash of science and neat history stuff

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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

If you want it to just not recommend things, you might prefer switching to an RSS feed, or to something like NewPipe.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago

The only reference I have for this was someone who I knew who rubbed said slime on herself for YouTube when she was 17 to build a following for when she turned 18 and started camming.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 15 points 2 months ago

That's fucked up

[-] perishthethought@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago

Things to get into this week:

  • newpipe
  • freetube

Then you decide where to go from there.

[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

confirmed, this is how i got into lock picking.

[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

" Hello, this is the lock picking lawyer, and what I have for you today..."

"Nothing on 3, click on 4, counter rotation on 5, back to the beginning, click on 1, and... We've got this open."

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago
[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Lol, this is hilarious and pathetic at the same time. At this point, a zip-tie is more secure than a masterlock 😂

[-] gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 2 months ago

And that is why I only open videos about topics I am only mildly interested on or from controversial channels in incognito mode even though I actually pay for ad-free YouTube Premium.

On my defense, that is the only streaming service I pay for.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

TFW you forget to wear protection when clicking on a weird video and you permanently scar your algorithm. You try to heal it, but days or weeks later, you are showing your boss a video on marine grade industrial sealant and Chappell Roan Pink Pony Club shows up in your recommended videos and you have to lie and say you have no idea what it is. When he is gone, you play it again.

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[-] yonder@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

At least premium has the benefit of paying creators more for your watch time, which is nice.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Or turn off history tracking and it stops doing that shit

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Tags: Slime Girl

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

As recent advances in AI have shown, humans are really quite predictable when you throw enough data and compute at the problem. At some point the algorithm will be sophisticated enough that it'll be able to get to know you better than you know yourself, and will be able to provide you with things you had no idea were what you really wanted.

Interesting times.

[-] QuizzaciousOtter@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Isn't this true for many years now?

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

Yes, but recent advances have really rubbed it in our faces in ways that are a lot harder to deny. Humans haven't become fundamentally more or less predictable over time but recent advances have shown how predictable we are.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Yep. I learned from an algorithm that I might enjoy music by "The Beatles". The algorithm was quite correct, but I think my having simple tastes, and the Beatles having amazing music is due most of the credit.

[-] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

Yes, I heard/saw/read that this is exactly what Amazon do, some years back now. They know who you are, what stage of life you are at, and they know what you want before you do.

[-] Schmeckinger@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah algorithms keep throwing stuff at me I would probably like to watch, but I don't click on it to not get even more brain damage.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I had this exact experience with music algorithm recommendations:

The algorithm analyzed all the songs I asked it to play, and concluded (correctly) that I might enjoy listening to the Beatles. (True story.)

(Now a bit of sarcasm:) I look forward to future insights, in other art forms, such as perhaps the writings of Shakespeare or the paintings of Leonardo Da Vinci.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Problem is that none of the algorithms actually care about showing you things you like.

Ads try to sell you on things that you wouldn't otherwise buy. Occasionally, they may just inform you about a good product that you simply didn't know about, but there's more money behind manipulating you into buying bad products, because it's got a brand symbol.

And content recommendation algorithms don't care about you either. They care about keeping you on the platform for longer, to look at more ads.
To some degree, that may mean showing you things you like. But it also means showing you things that aggravate you, that shock you. And the latter is considered more effective at keeping users engaged.

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