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SCOTUS asks US government for its view on $1 billion Sony v. Cox case.

Case file: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/11/supreme-court-may-decide-whether-isps-must-terminate-users-accused-of-piracy/

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Supreme Court signaled it may take up a case that could determine whether Internet service providers must terminate users who are accused of copyright infringement.

This is insane. If this was to be ruled in favor of, it could be used to stifle dissent just by saying someone violated copyright. Fucking dangerous shit, and shouldn't even be considered, which is probably why they'll rule that it's totally cool to do.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago

Especially when you're considering that anyone who has ever shared a meme has engaged in minor copyright violations.

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It doesn’t seem in the ISPs interest to pursue, they would just lose customers. Unless they also provide cable/satellite television services.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

That’s the beauty of the government. They can shape others’ interests by wielding the power to shut people down and lock them up and fine them.

[-] doctortofu@reddthat.com 42 points 1 month ago

Should gun manufacturers be liable for user's murders? No? Then fuck off and leave ISPs alone...

Thats not a good comparison, guns are designed to kill (whether good or bad, legal or illegal)

ISPs or internet has quite a lot of other uses than piracy.

Your intent is right, but the example is wrong...

[-] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Nah, it's a great example, for exactly the reason you said.

The argument for holding gun manufacturers liable is BETTER than the argument for ISPs, so if it doesn't work for gun manufacturers, it DEFINITELY doesn't work for ISPs.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Is Southwestern Bell liable for what I say on the telephone?

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 17 points 1 month ago

Should car manufacturers be liable for drunk drivers, stolen cars, distracted drivers etc?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

That's a little different. I think auto manufacturers should have regulations that help protect drivers when they're not driving at their best. Things like seat belts are a simple example.

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 1 month ago

That's a little regulation, not liability or mandating control of the product's use.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Let's also make the government liable for criminals using the roads.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I’m kind of interested in where criminals are getting this “currency” that enables their dirty black market activities.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 1 month ago

This is a tough one since there is no clear "this side is owners and the other side are just worthless regular citizens we don't give a fuck about." Both sides of this one are owners. SCOTUS must really be in a bind here.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

so blurry, in fact, you see comcast on both sides.

[-] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

Might as well extend this to cell phones. Should providers be liable for everything that's said over those calls?

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 7 points 1 month ago

I honestly don't know what an insane court would rule either way.

[-] Someplaceunknown@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Should a swordsmith be responsible if I cut someone?

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Are you from Toledo or 1200 BCE?

[-] Someplaceunknown@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

Both actually

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What about, please hear me out, what about gun manufacturers?

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

How about envelope makers?

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