Just wait until they try heating the raw milk in a pressurized container at 200° F
I mean, you say that. But I think there's money to be made here. If we just create a new name for pasteurisation processes and market it as "that thing" raw milk. Of course with a 200% markup. Free money!
✨Pressure Purified✨ raw milk
Slow cooked raw milk now 100% less raw.
Milk cooked low and slow until it falls off the bone.
Like that bit in Parks & Rec where people are scared of flouride in the drinking water, so they rebrand it as H₂Flow and everyone loves it.
There's truth to that quote of "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it"
Pressure cooker sales to the moon!
"Tech bros reinvent trains, but worse" makes perfect sense if your end goal is to grift people.
Everyone knows what a train is, and any investment firm will be able to understand the material, land, and labor costs because all of that is well known and documented.
When you have an idea that no one has ever done before, then the costs get nebulous. Getting funding turns into a marketing problem, and thats a lot easier when the person paying doesn't know exactly what they're getting. Every investor wants to be on the ground floor of the next major innovation, and your job is to convince them that's what this is.
Also, I really feel the need to point out: pasteurizing isn't what makes the milk less tasty. Homogenization is what skims the fat and makes it into bland watery (and profitable) Supermarket milk.
But ironically, boiling milk is FAR worse for all the vitamins than pasteurizing it. Boiled raw milk is less nutritious for you than Supermarket milk, especially since supermarket milk is often fortified back to its original levels or beyond. It IS tastier though, but pasteurized unhomogenized milk does exist, which is great because it tastes like a desert, AND won't kill you.
Homogenization doesn't skim the fat. It breaks the fat globules up into very small particles that form a stable emulsion that doesn't separate. All they do is pass it through a high pressure nozzle.
So what you're telling me is: 'no homo'?
skimmed milk for life
Be nice to skimmed milk drinking cryptids. They happily subsist on the waste product of butter making and reduce competing demand for the full-fat milk product you enjoy.
You can throw that tag on me too lol, skim milk is best milk
Y'all are cuckoo bananas, imho.
The term that people should look out for is "creamline" or "cream-top" milk. It's whole milk that is unhomogenized. It basically separates in the bottle, so there's a layer of cream floating on top of skim.
I couldn't say for sure, but I've heard it's better for making cheese/yogurt/etc.
Personally, I wouldn't buy it just for drinking cause I don't think it lasts as long.
I don't even know how to feel about this... I'm so tired of people's bullshit in very broad ways.
This is what happens when you treat every idea as equally worthy of consideration. We decided it was too mean spirited to call stupid ideas what they are and now the idiots think they know as much as the experts.
"I'm so tired of people's bullshit in very broad ways" IS how I feel about this and many other things.
Rediscovering well-established shit from first principles and a science-illiterate, history-ignorant stance.
I'm betting the raw milk thing re-entered society via the crystals and essential oils crowd?
The same type of people that said back in the 70s - or maybe even before - that television screens emitted cancer-causing radiation.
In the 90s they were saying that about the magnetic fields in digital alarm clock radios, too. Completely oblivious to the night lamps by the bed, those also conduct electricity. But noooo... it was the tiny LED screen that suddenly made the difference... I guess?
Also completely oblivious to the Earth's titanic magnetic field dwarfing and drowning whatever they had with their little gizmos in their normal-sized bedrooms in the 90s.
IME you are pegging entirely the wrong group of people.
For at least 10 years the only people I've heard making a stink about being able to get raw milk are the same folks complaining about fluoride in drinking water.
That's not so much the crystals and oils crowd as it is the fuck your feelings crowd.
There is significant overlap with those people.
Rediscovering well-established shit from first principles and a science-illiterate, history-ignorant stance
This is basically the entire process Libertarians go through before realizing they're idiots... They have to re-learn all of the things we've already collectively learned as a society, generations ago. But I guess they just can't believe that we need taxes to fund roads and water infrastructure, until they experience it first hand.
Not even just Libertarians, just conservatives in general these days. Look at Elon Musk and how quick he re-learned why Twitter would "censor" shit.
It's like these people think everything we do is just empty tradition, and until they experience it first hand, they will never believe we need a regulation. When the reality is that many of our regulations are written in blood, and it's idiotic and indefensible to want to go back to those times and do it all again. Simply because the richest dude in the world can't be bothered to read a goddamn book.
Wellness influencer doesn't know the definition of...raw?
Yeah, that checks out.
Sometimes I'm appalled by humanity forgetting how to make cool stuff that they could do in antiquity and then had to re-discover it, like roman glass, concrete, etc. And then I come across stuff like this and it all makes perfect sense.
I've always been intrigued how scurvy has been "cured" several times but only really got figured out in the 20's after Shackleton's expedition. And then even still, scurvy is back in the news with people being too poor to afford food.
Much of Roman technology was lost because the collapse of state capacity and according administrative capacity rendered the balance of agrarian to non-agrarian workers unsustainable.
A high equilibrium, where the products of population centers supports and enhances the productivity of the agrarian surroundings while administrative pressure (like taxes) encourage the trade between the two: If the farmers need to pay taxes in coin, they need to sell surplus to merchants who ship it to cities to sell it. Conversely, the craftsmen producing iron plows, pottery and so on need coin too, so they sell tools, which the farmers buy to improve their yield. The state also buys services (like construction) and the elite buys luxuries, further creating jobs and fostering more technological development.
(Obviously, the elite skim a lot off the value produced by others - just because they did some good for others with it doesn't mean they didn't primarily do a lot of good for themselves.)
But when internal strife, plague, worsening climate, desperate invaders and identity politics all start breaking that machine, it's hard to keep it from falling apart. And once the rural argarian production can no longer sustain the cities, the skills and crafts of the urbanites get lost.
The loss of Roman concrete happened before the collapse of the Western Roman empire. This is one exception to your insightful comment. Major public works were halted in the last century before the collapse. The last major project in Western Europe was the Temple of Minerva around 325 CE.
In Constantinople, a small church, tha Hagia Irene, has concrete walls. Larger works, like the famous city walls, don't have any concrete. It honestly may not have been an appropriate material choice, but other projects didn't use Roman concrete either. I think this might be because volcanic ash wasn't readily available.
So who is going to put out the fires, libertarian?
Well, everyone will just regularly pay a little to the person that has a fire truck and they'll put out the fires when needed.
I can't wait for the future where we're paying subscription fees for a thousand separate essential services and the libertarians start suggestinf thet there should just be a service that provides a single source for paying and managing all of tjose subscriptions.
Boiling things isn't guaranteed to make it safe, because sometimes bacteria produce toxins as a byproduct that are heat-stable, so if you kill the bacterial you can still get food poisoning if you drink it.
Couldn't one invent a way more effective if more complicated heat-treatment cycle and a corresponding plant for performing it, and then ideally standardization to ensure this is always done this way before milk is sold for consumption?
Some influencer should get onto that!
If I had this misfortune of having raw milk I guarantee that I would boil it before consuming it.
As someone that grew up on a farm.
Yeah, "raw" cow milk isn't to be consumed. You'd be shitting your guts out for hours.
I read somewhere that certain places have a very large amount of people with lactose intolerance, like north America. I used to drink raw milk, straight from the bucket my grandma used to milk the cow. Never had any issues. Grew up on a farm in Romania in the 80s.
Your immune system probably built up a larger tolerance to the bacteria in raw milk after consuming it for years.
Not just lactose, raw milk can contain all sorts of nasty stuff. Seems like you probably had super healthy cows, a good immune system, and a healthy dose of luck.
Grew up working on a dairy farm, definitely drank raw milk and didn't shit my guts out. It would if you drank, like, a LOT of it. But seriously you'd have to drink more than a cup or so.
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