All these weird numeric names. I'm gonna build a GPU and name it Jonathan.

Intel GPU claims are NEVER true.

If they double up the VRAM with a 24GB card, this would be great for a "self hosted LLM" home server.

3060, 3090 prices have been rising like crazy because Nvidia is vram gouging and AMD inexplicably refuses to compete. Even ancient P40s (double vram 1080 TIs with no display) are getting expensive. 16GB on the A770 is kinda meager, but 24GB is the point where you can fit the Qwen 2.5 32B models that are starting to perform like the big corporate API ones.

And if they could fit 48GB with new ICs... Well, it would sell like mad.

I’m reserving judgement of course to see how things actually play out but I do want to throw a cheapest pc together for my nephew and that card would make a fine centerpiece.

Funny the Radeon RX 480 came out in 2016 at a similar price. Is that a coincidence?
Incidentally the last great generation offering a midrange GPU at a midrange price. The Nvidia 1060 was great too, and the 1080 is claimed to maybe be one of the best offers of all time. Since then everything has been overpriced.

The RX 480 was later replaced by the 580 which was a slight upgrade at great value too. But then the crypto wave hit, and soon a measly 580 cost nearly $1000!!! Things have never returned quite back to normal since. Too little competition with only Nvidia and AMD.

It's a pretty decent value when stacked up against RTX 4000 and RX 7000 GPUs.

But we're only a month or two from the next generation of Nvidia & AMD cards.

Those companies could even shit the bed for a second generation in a row on price-to-performance improvements, and the B580 will probably just end up being in-line with those offerings.

As someone with a 6650 XT, which is a little slower than the 6700 or 4060, I doubt the increased vram, which is of course still nice, is enough to push it for 1440p. I struggle even in 1080p in some games, but I guess if you're okay with ~40 FPS then you could go that high.

Unfortunately, if the 4060 is roughly the target here, that's still far below what I'm interested in, which is more the upper midrange stuff (and I'd love one with 16 GB vram at least).

At least the price is much more attractive now.

Dunno, realisticly speaking it is a slightly cheaper 7600, hardly a market shake-up.

Seems like a decent card, but here are my issues:

• 12 GB RAM - not quite enough to play w/ LLMs
• a little better than my 6650 XT, but not amazingly so
• $250 - a little better than RX 7600 and RTX 4060 I guess? Probably?

If it offered more RAM (16GB or ideally 24GB) and stayed under $300, I'd be very interested because it opens up LLMs for me. Or if it had a bit better performance than my current GPU, and again stayed under $300 (any meaningful step-up is $350+ from AMD or Nvidia).

But this is just another low to mid-range card, so I guess it would be interesting for new PC builds, but not really an interesting upgrade option. So, pretty big meh to me. I guess I'll check out independent benchmarks in case there's something there. I am considering building a PC for my kids using old parts, so I might get this instead of reusing my old GTX 960, the board I'd use only has PCIe 3.0, so I worry performance would suffer and the GTX 960 may be a better stop-gap.

Using ML upscaling does not qualify it as a 1440p card... what a poor take.

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How is compatibility with older games now?

Because I'm not buying a GPU unless it works with everything.