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submitted 1 week ago by bpt11@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I'm relatively new to the linux space, I was introduced by the steam deck which uses kde, and it's pretty similar to windows in terms of how it works so that's the DE i'd be leaning towards when I eventually switch. I've never used gnome so i'm not sure if it'd be worth using I guess?

So I'm just looking for some input from the community, do you use Gnome or Plasma, why do you use it, and what's kind of like a pros and cons kinda thing between the two?

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[-] Drito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You are used to KDE and Gnome is very different But also KDE is buggy, I dont know how Steamdeck people make it better. If you chose Xfce, you will get a KDE similar desktop but more robust. Xfce can look modern with few efforts. MX Linux distro is a good example of a nice Xfce config.

[-] MITM0@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago
[-] _donnadie_@feddit.cl 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Xfce and Debian is the best combination. Stable, lightweight. Overall pretty good.

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[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 40 points 6 days ago

Gnome is Snow Leopard OSX basically in attitude and experience, do NOT try to customize anything, go limp and do the experience. KDE is Windows 98, full of fun customizations, but unpolished in odd ways no matter what you do. Choose your fighter!

[-] Zeoic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Uhm, what? Gnome is all about customization lol Mine looks more like windows than it does mac

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 3 days ago

Enjoy 1/3rd of those customizations breaking if you ever upgrade.

[-] Zeoic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Been through two sofar and its been fine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 2 days ago

Sweet summer child...

[-] audaxdreik@pawb.social 16 points 6 days ago

KDE is Windows 98, full of fun customizations, but unpolished in odd ways no matter what you do.

Absolutely perfect. And part of why I've grown to love it.

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[-] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You can customize Gnome quite a lot if you want it just requires a bit of knowledge.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

KDE for best fully integrated, out of box, modern DE.

XFCE + Compiz if you're running on lower end hardware (uses less ram and utilizes gpu better). Also if you want even more customization than KDE with the drawback of limited SVG support (and still on X11 if that matters for you)

GNOME if you hate yourself and want to use a knockoff of ChromeOS or Mac.

Cinnamon and MATE if you want to see when GNOME used to be good.

LXQt is the XFCE equivalent of KDE, but is now on wayland with GPU accel, so it can fit the same area as XFCE+Compiz.

Wayfire (compositor) basically Compiz for Wayland if you want all the fancy effects on anything that uses wayland.

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I use GNOME. KDE is nice in that it allows you to customize everything, but if I want that degree of control I'd rather use a fully customized window manager setup (sway is generally my go-to).

GNOME is also designed to be used in a keyboard-centric workflow, which I prefer. It's a nice comfy default for when I want the option to use my computer "lazily", i.e. just kicking back mostly using the mouse to browse the web, but still has enough power-user functionality to make zipping around without touching the mouse feel good.

I also just like their defaults a lot. If you start to install a bunch of third party extensions etc it starts to get messy and degrade the point of the whole unified vision, and at that point you're better off with KDE IMO.

It's also worth noting that I don't really like the default Mac OS UX -- while I can see why people say "KDE is like Windows, GNOME is like Mac," it's really only a surface level comparison that mostly ends at "KDE uses a taskbar and GNOME has a dock".

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[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 days ago

KDE if these are my choices & by a long shot.

I usually cobble together my own tiling setup. This has less bloat, but also a lot less integration.

[-] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

I use KDE. It's very powerful and flexible. While it can be windows like, you an also craft pretty much any GUI you like with it with relative ease. It can be Mac like or something unique, or even Gnome like if you really want that.

It's also intuitive and user friendly, with well made apps and a comprehensive settings menu.

I've found KDE to be reliable and stable, as well as attractive and customisable.

There are a lot of apps made for it - the only downside is software bloat if you install all of them. I'd start with the basics KDE desktop and add apps one by one rather than install the whole KDE app suite. Although the apps are usually excellent lots of the apps may not be useful to you personally . For example I don't like installing the PIM suite (email, contacts etc) as I don't use it - all that is online for me so I don't need the native apps.

I'm personally not a fan of Gnome. It's got a single rigid GUI philosophy which you can now expand with extensions but I find they can be hit and miss on whether they work or are stable, and time consuming to set up how you want.

So for gnome you either like it as is or you don't, and if you dont like it then honestly I'd say don't bother trying to make it be what you want - just use something more flexible.

But regardless of what desktop you use, Apps will work on either or any of the others available.

[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I just like GNOME better. Especially on a laptop. KDE is technically better on a desktop but all the things that annoy me on KDE tip the scales enough for me to use GNOME instead.

[-] Artopal@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago
[-] sag@lemy.lol 8 points 5 days ago

Used to use GNOME. But now I worship KDE.

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[-] Joelio@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

Kde, nothing against gnome, I just need to adjust KDE less to get what I want.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

Plasma.

As a Linux convert from Windows, IMO it's really close in look and feel to Windows 7 or 10 but with none of the bullshit. You barely have to change your workflow if you're already used to Windows.

[-] PromptX@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

I'm in love with KDE right now.

[-] kuneho@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I settled with Plasma. It has its fair share of issues, mostly minor things compared to coming from Windows and its environment. But you really can customize it the way you want and it's relatively comfortable, so I'm fine with it. I still miss the old KDE3, but I'm not that hardcore to use Trinity. Not even sure how's Trinity nowadays.

Gnome 3 is just not my world, at all... at least, for desktop. I kinda use it on my htpc if I need an environment. That, or Xfce. I can imagine on a palmtop pc or other portable device that runs Linux, either with or without a touchscreen Gnome could be a pretty decent choice. Also, I'm sure I could/would get used to it if there's nothing else, but there are other options so I'm not going to sit down and get to (re)know Gnome, tho it's not like I'm against it.

[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 9 points 6 days ago

I was on xfce for a long time due to having low power hardware. I got a decent computer around the time kde plasma came out. I tried it and have stayed on it.

I hate gnome with every fiber of my being.

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago

KDE... Mostly sane defaults out of the box and tons of customization options if there's anything you dont like.

[-] SevereLow@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I use GNOME and I enjoy it a lot. If you decide to go with GNOME, imho try to install as few extensions as possible so that you can experience the desktop environment the way it's intended by the developers. Of course, if it's not for you, then with the help of extensions you can adapt it to your liking.

Pros:

  • Beautiful to look at and gets out of the way. GNOME scored great productivity gains for me.
  • Fast, responsive and very stable (I'm on Fedora 40).
  • Great experience with flatpaks.
  • The best touchpad gestures in the world. Any DE, any OS.

Cons:

  • Even though it is very stable, sometimes it crashes. Last time the crash was caused by Thunderbird; then I switched Thunderbird to flatpak too, so that if it crashes again it will not bring down the whole DE (applause to flatpak for delivering the tech 👏). Disclaimer: prior to the crash, I haven't shut down / restart my laptop for 20 days... it might not be Thunderbird alone that caused the problem.

🚧⚠️ That said, there's currently a really annoying bug in GNOME that causes HUGE (or even - INSANE!) disk I/O! I don't know when it is going to be fixed, but for the first time in two years this made me consider trying other desktop environments.

[-] Drewski 9 points 6 days ago

KDE, coming from Windows it was the easiest to get used to for me. It has a lot of options and required some tweaking to get it the way I like, but once I did it was smooth sailing.

[-] exu@feditown.com 6 points 5 days ago

KDE because it has a lot oft integrations and I can mostly configure it how I want. I previously, ran i3 and then Sway, but I grew tired of having to integrate everything myself.

[-] hamburger@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 days ago
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[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

I use KDE atm I'm really new to Linux at the moment though and I will switch at some point to see the other side. But KDE seams really good after just coming from Windows.

[-] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 days ago

I use and love both. KDE (Bazzite) on my desktop gaming PC, and Gnome (Bluefin) on my laptop for casual stuff, mostly YouTube.

KDE is a bit better for gaming since it has HDR and VRR and is the standard DE on the Steam Deck. I tried Gnome too just a few days ago, but it felt inferior in regards of gaming and content creation.

Gnome on the other hand has a place reserved on my laptop aswell as in my heart. Especially the ultra smooth and well thought out touch gestures and minimalist UI makes it perfect for laptop usage.

For me personally, I prefer Gnome over KDE. KDE is a bit more capable, but it overwhelms me sometimes. Gnome has a better concept and workflow for me. You either love or hate it, I do the first.

[-] Grangle1@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

I've used GNOME in the past but currently use KDE Plasma. Both are good, but as for recommendations most Linux people I know of say for new users that if you're coming from Windows start with Plasma and if you're coming from Mac OS start with GNOME since those are the closer desktops to what you used before and will make things a bit easier. Depending on the distro you choose you may also have access to other desktops like Cinnamon, which I haven't used but have heard is even easier than Plasma for new users coming from Windows. It's not ready for daily use yet, but the upcoming Cosmic desktop may also be quite good for that.

[-] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Gnome ftw

KDE Plasma is really nice, I love all the settings. But every time I try it, I give up after a couple weeks because I get annoyed at the hangups/crashes. Maybe because I'm always on old hardware. But I've never had Gnome crash. In 2 weeks, I had to ctrl-alt-f2 to reset plasma like 5 times. I never had to do that with gnome.

Sometimes on Gnome I really wish I could change a setting that would be easy in Plasma. but it's just not worth the hiccups. And it's nice that Plasma gives access to a bunch of different task switchers. But I couldn't find any that work as well as the Gnome task switcher. Plasma feels like beta testing

❤️ to KDE, though. I love K3b, KDEconnect (plus the GSconnect gnome extension), kate, krita, etc.

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Gnome

I used to use KDE but I tried gnome and the default settings is exactly what I want anyway so I just switched

Would put gnome in my phone if I could but android itself already acts similar enough, but switching between apps is such a damn pain why is this such a pain god just be fast for once android

[-] banazir@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

KDE Plasma. It makes sense to me and everything functions more or less how I prefer it to. If I need something, it's usually easy enough to find. Plasma being flexible is a plus, but I rarely need to do any modifications.

I loathe GNOME. Any time I use it it's like pulling teeth. On a touch surface I can maybe get it, but on desktop I honestly think it has some serious usability problems cooked in. And since GNOME extensions can break at any time, trying to "fix" GNOME is a losing battle. If I had to use GNOME, I'd install GNOME Classic which is ok. Or better yet, use XFCE or MATE. GNOME is highly opinionated and that's fair enough, they can do their thing and people seem to like what they offer, but boy is it not for me.

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[-] anothermember@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago

Out-of-the-box GNOME, with no extensions or tweaks.

I used to be a customise-everything kind of guy. But I'm not naturally efficient, so any workflow I designed for myself would always end up being inefficient. With GNOME I see it as a kind of off-the-shelf workflow that I can adapt to, something I wouldn't have come up with myself but it makes me more efficient.

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[-] Boxscape 7 points 6 days ago

Using KDE configured like GNOME.

KNOME, if you will.

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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago

I used KDE for about 10 years, but switched to GNOME when 3 came out and haven't looked back. It's a little unusual if you're coming from Windows, but I've found that once I let go of old paradigms like a start bar and icons and embraced multiple workspaces, that GNOME is pretty damned amazing.

[-] thepiguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I use a window manager on my desktop, and gnome on my laptop. Gnome's gestures are amazing with a touchpad

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[-] megane_kun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago

I used KDE Plasma for a long time ever since I started daily-driving Linux.

I like how KDE Plasma allows quite a surprising amount of customization. I also had some experience with Gnome via Ubuntu, and XFCE. Gnome looks polished, but doesn't allow for much customization. XFCE is a lot more customizable than Gnome, but getting it to look quite right took a lot of effort.

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Of the two I prefer Plasma. I strongly dislike Gnome. My absolute favorite DE is Cinnamon.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Kde. It's nice but I get some hangups and crashes sometimes.

[-] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago

I'm pretty happy using GNOME on my laptop. Never tried KDE in my ~6 years of using Linux, maybe if I install it onto another device I will.

[-] Lautaro@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Gnome user here.

[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Use both! You can switch between them when you log in. Find what you like.

I enjoy gnome but that isn't everyone's cup of tea.

This is the power of Linux. Not that it gives you a nice configuration (it does) but it gives you the power of choice and control over your own device.

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[-] waspentalive@lemmy.one 6 points 6 days ago

KDE - Was Gnome, but I switched for a reason. I, uh, forgot the reason.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Afaik, Gnome is very opinionated about how it should work. This makes it work out of the box, but if it does something that you don't like, it might be a pain to fix it. I use KDE because configuring it is relatively fast and easy, and it has some neat features and custom plugins.

[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as KDE, is in fact, KDE Plasma.

Anyway, I use Gnome but if you are used to Plasma, there is no need to make things harder by using Gnome on a device and Plasma on another. Just stick to Plasma.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago

Neither, XFCE.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Gnome! I use Nixos so I prefer to use things that can be configured using its system, I like KDE but I can’t find a elegant way to configure the UI layout using nix

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