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Tesla is trash, no QC.
In case anybody has to be talked out of spending that much money on a car.
Yeah we know Tesla sucks
Are you actually asking for honest feedback or just upvotes?
If so, buying any used car is better. If you can get by with a 2008 accord, buy that. Better for the environment than any new electric. If you don't care about the environment and just want an electric for funsies, buy a used (whatever is well rated).
I don't have any data, but I'm surprised if a new electric is worse than a second hand ICE? What's your thinking behind that?
Reduce, reuse, recycle. Better to use a car that's already made then to make a new one.
Better yet, buy a bicycle. Of course this doesn't currently work for everyone, but many people could live a better life with just a bike and don't even realize it. Deeply evaluate your own situation.
I'm not asking for anything. I just wanted to warn people so they are not stuck with a heap of junk from a company who's CEO endorses neo-Nazi political parties.
I want some recommendations. Something with tactile controls and no subscriptions.
I like our Hyundai Kona a lot.
I loves ours too. But the Bluetooth function is totally crazy
If you're in the US, wait about a year and you'll have a bunch of better options from the traditional automakers.
The thing that makes Tesla compelling to me is their charger network, and Ford, GM, etc are adopting the Tesla standard in upcoming models. I think Ford is doing the switch in 2025.
I'm a truck guy, and the F150 lightning looks way, way more compelling than the Cybertruck, because they're making what I want. A truck that happens to be electric. Ford has been making F-series trucks for over 75 years and has made a pretty refined package in that time. They took that design, put in an electric motor and used the space savings for a frunk.
That's what I want. The revolution should be in how it's powered, not in how it operates.
The F150's design is nothing what it used to be, and it's a horrible car for road safety. But their branding is undoubtedly very successful, for the US-American market at least. And it's not like the competition hasn't been moving in the same direction.
The size isn't a branding thing. It's a US legal thing.
Since 2012, the CAFE (fuel economy) standards have been based on vehicle footprint, not classification. It's why 2011 was the last year model of the S10, Dakota, and Ranger.
As the CAFE standards get stricter and stricter, the auto companies have to make cargo vehicle footprints larger and larger. It's why when the Ranger was relaunched, it was bigger than the 2010 F150.
It's also why the small cargo van class of vehicle stopped existing in the last few years. The Transit Connect, Ram ProMaster City, and Nissan NV200 were all just discontinued because they can't make a cargo van with that footprint that meets the new CAFE regulations.
It's also why the Maverick has the hard-to-buy hybrid listed as the "standard" model with the traditional engine as the "upgrade."
Making the vehicles electric will allow them to start making them reasonably-sized again. Right now, the frame of the F150 is really large, and after the Mustang Mach E fiasco, Ford is scared to use a different chassis for the electric truck.
Give it a few generations, and it'll be perfect. In the meantime, the Lightning is still way better than the Cybertruck at almost everything, better than the Rivian for hauling things, and way cheaper than both.
1998 Toyota Tercel.
I drive the EV equivalent of this, a 2016 Nissan leaf.
It only cost 6k, 4kish with tax rebates, but it has a max mileage of like 70 miles. Perfect for our needs as a commuter car within the city.
There is a touchscreen, but that's just for audio since the gps and Pandora features stopped working after 3g cell service was phased out. There are tactile controls for audio as well.
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For future I'm looking at Telo and Scout. Obviously can't yet comment on reliability and privacy concerns but iirc both will have tactile feel.
Considering how badly VAG is doing on EV front I'd worry about the reliability and pricing on any Scout products. I hadn't heard about Telo though, that looks incredibly interesting of course it'll fly about as well as a station wagon here in the US but what's basically an electric kei car is a wicked concept.
I agree about VAG group and Telo itself is startup in big (from investment POV) field. However I do want both of them to be successful enough to continue production (we will see though)
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Yeah not a single dime he will receive from me. I'm not going to support a Nazi.
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