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Wikipedia defines common sense as "knowledge, judgement, and taste which is more or less universal and which is held more or less without reflection or argument"

Try to avoid using this topic to express niche or unpopular opinions (they're a dime a dozen) but instead consider provable intuitive facts.

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 59 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

A lot of outdoor survival "common sense" can get you killed:

Moss doesn't exclusively grow on the north side of trees. Local conditions are too chaotic and affect what side is most conducive to moss. Don't use moss for navigation.

Don't drink alcohol to warm yourself up. It feels warm but actually does the opposite: alcohol opens up your capillaries and allows more heat to escape through your skin, which means you lose body heat a lot faster.

Don't eat snow to rehydrate yourself. It will only make you freeze to death faster. Melt the snow outside of your body first.

Don't assume a berry is safe to eat just because you see birds eating them. You're not a bird. Your digestive system is very different from a bird's digestive system.

If you've been starving for a long time, don't gorge yourself at the first opportunity when you get back to civilization. You can get refeeding syndrome which can kill you. It's best to go to the hospital where you can be monitored and have nutrients slowly reintroduced in a way that won't upset the precarious balance your body has found itself in.

[–] CanadaPlus 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Don’t eat snow to rehydrate yourself. It will only make you freeze to death faster. Melt the snow outside of your body first.

Wait, how does that work? It seems like it should take the same energy to melt it either way.

Also, do people not know every berry isn't edible? Even here where not a lot grows, there's plenty of decorative ones around that will give you the violent shits.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ideally you'd use an external heat source to melt the snow so you're not wasting your body heat on it (it's also generally a good idea to boil water of unknown quality before drinking it to reduce the risk of getting sick, which would be especially bad if you're lost in the wilderness). Failing that, I've also heard people recommend filling a water bottle with snow and putting it in between the layers of clothing you're wearing so it's not directly touching your skin, that way you don't lose a bunch of heat really quickly.

[–] CanadaPlus 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I guess that's true, if you eat a whole bunch of snow at once you could get too cold - especially if you do it while not moving. If you have a fire, of course this is all a non-issue; just make sure not to light yourself, your surroundings or your container on fire, especially during sleep.

it’s also generally a good idea to boil water of unknown quality before drinking it to reduce the risk of getting sick, which would be especially bad if you’re lost in the wilderness

Hmm. Are there known cases of illness known from snow melt? It's not guaranteed clean like domestic potable water, but I can't imagine it carries too much by natural water standards, either.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Hmm. Are there known cases of illness known from snow melt? It’s not guaranteed clean like domestic potable water, but I can’t imagine it carries too much by natural water standards, either.

There's always a risk of bacteria. Maybe not super high a risk, but getting food poisoning while lost in the woods can really screw you over.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Cold Air will make you sick.

There are plenty of studies debunking it, and yet I still hear about it all the time.

This is a common argument in our house.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In Germany, people are very concerned about Zugluft, i.e. draft from opening multiple windows.

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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 52 points 6 days ago (3 children)

'Building more lanes will reduce traffic' is a classic.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it's just missing a bit of specificity.

Building more bike lanes will reduce traffic. Building more bus lanes will reduce traffic. Building more tram lines will reduce traffic. Building more car lanes will ~~reduce~~ induce traffic.

Not perfect, but solid logic within reason (Building 100 more bus lanes will reduce traffic).

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They enlarged rt 3 near rt 95 in MA many years ago. It was getting backed up due to all of the people moving further out from Boston. I said "It will be full again in a few years." Yup. It was moving well for a few years so everyone piled into that area because the commute was better and within a few years it was a traffic jam again.

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[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

To tilt your head back if you have a blood nose.

This is no longer recommended advice, because you end up drinking the blood which causes vomiting.

  • Probably initially said by someone concerned about their carpet.

Way to stop them is put ice over the back of neck, plug nose with tissue and clear clots each 2 mins.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Any reason not to just let it run? If not on blood thinners.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

You can let it run.

I find it clots better by using tissues to plug the flow.

[–] CanadaPlus 38 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Folk idioms that contradict each other are my favourite. For example, "the cream rises to the top" vs. "it's not what you know, it's who you know".

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 days ago

"The squeaky wheel gets the grease"

"The nail that sticks out gets hammered down."

[–] Nemoder@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I like to try and combine these to see what kind of reactions I get.
The cream rises to who you know.
The squeaky wheel gets hammered down.
He who laughs last, comes around.
Great minds killed the cat!

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

there's actually aword for this type of mixed idiom: malaphor

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago

I like saying "we'll burn that bridge when we come to it".

Most people don't catch it.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

Good call, I'll start looking out for these!

[–] some_guy 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Police are there to help you.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is common sense just an earlier, naive label for confirmation bias?

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

A key aspect is that it doesn't even require confirmation.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The most vulnerable will be hit the hardest.

  1. Countries are rich because they have free markets.
  2. Tariffs are a good thing and competition is for losers.
  1. No one deserves a handout, as money should be earned.
  2. Large companies deserve a giant economic stimilus, because if we don't, our economy will crash.
  1. Being spied upon by your government or foreign governments whom I worship is okay, because I've got nothing to hide.
  2. Outsiders that sells goods that can be used to spy obviously and should be barred from all markets forever because they'll definitely spy on you and spying is wrong.
  1. If you feel threatened by another country, a pre-emptive strike should be allowed.
  2. You don't mess with the sovereignty of a nation. It's sacred and should be left intact.
  1. Police should always be allowed to use overwhelming force and their actions should be lauded
  2. You should have the right to protect yourself using firearms against tyranny as governments in general are never to be trusted.
[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Is the goal to point out contradictions in the pairs you gave?

[–] kaamkiya@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If "common sense is not very common", why is it called common sense?

Slightly off topic, sorry.

[–] CanadaPlus 3 points 5 days ago

When people say that, they mean they're so much smarter than everyone else they could fix it all in a moment.

Of course, in reality, the cranky old man saying that has just stayed so uninformed about the issues he doesn't know what he doesn't know.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Common sense isn't just "not so common," it is a fundamentally broken concept at its core and a crutch that people use to hoist themselves above others they feel they are better than.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

β€œSurvival of the fittest”

bitch, explain cows

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago

Cows are the most fit for their environment. Their environment being a useful and sustainable food source for humans to cultivate.

[–] Kingofthezyx@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

In all of my ecology classes they were super specific about re-framing that concept as "survival of the fit enough"

You don't actually have to be the best example of something to have your traits carried along, just good enough to consistently make it to reproductive age and then procreate.

It helps explain a lot of weird survival mechanisms - it doesn't have to be the best way to do things but if it consistently works, then it's good enough. Like the old saying "if it's stupid, but it works, then it's not stupid"

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 6 days ago

Fittest for the purpose of being chosen by farmers to participate in breeding.

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