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[–] hulfpa@lemmy.ml 141 points 2 months ago (14 children)

This move makes zero sense to me. Why, change it? It's not it's official name or international recognized name so wtf

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 107 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Curry favor with the trump admin

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 79 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

And it will undoubtedly pay off for them. This is the first brazenly tech oligarchy-driven administration.

Remember who was at Trump’s inauguration? Musk, obviously, but also:

  • Tim Cook, CEO of Apple
  • Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon
  • Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta
  • Sundar Pichai, CEO of Alphabet

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Trump, a populist president, is flanked by tech billionaires at his inauguration

Tim Apple isn’t your friend, either. No oligarch is.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

To be clear, they've changed names in line with official government policy before, not just for Trump's admin.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 67 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The USA is now part of a list of "sensitive countries" with authoritarian states with their own version of reality. When users in one of the countries on this list visit Google sites, they see that government's version of reality. This is nothing new. Google does it all the time with disputed territories. It's only news because it's the first time the US has an authoritarian government.

Here's how it looks when visiting from a Mexican device with the language set to Australian English while located in Hungary.

1000019054

Edit: undoxxed myself lol

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In Google maps set to Polish while in the UK, it shows

Zatoka Meksykańska (Zatoka Amerykańska)

Which translates to

Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Distraction from:

  • closing down the Consumer Protection Agency, USAID, and the Education Agency
  • cutting off funding to the universities
  • stealing our student, treasury and health records while taking over the purse
  • not following federal judge's orders
  • building an unregulated concentration camp in Cuba
  • etc.

Edit: That's why trump did it. All tech companies are in his hands now.

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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think I heard that Trump did it because he thinks it gets him around some Biden era rule that he can’t reverse that bans oil drilling in parts of the “Gulf of Mexico.” It’s really stupid. Exxon and Chevron have both “acknowledged” the name change.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 96 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

It's even weirder because America doesn't mean just the United States

Geographically, America is too ambiguous of a name for the Gulf of Mexico

Wouldn't the Gulf of California also qualify as being the Gulf of America?

The Caribbean Sea?

Basically every river system from the Mississippi and and the Amazon are also "American" from northernmost point of North America to the southernmost point of South America, it's all "America"

Naming the Gulf of Mexico "America" is almost as bad as naming a country "earth"

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Hey since America is the center of the earth, we should change it to the Gulf of Central America!

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mexico's full name is ”The United States of Mexico", I think they should rename their map's version to Gulf of The United States just to add to the confusion and make the point these things, like all facts, are useless when people suffer no consequences from making them up.

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[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 77 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] Aetherion@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Organic Maps is really cool :-)

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile on Openstreetmap:

name Golfo de México

name:en Gulf of Mexico

official_name:en_US Gulf of America

Showing just enough acknowledgement to confirm they've discussed the executive order, but they aren't going to follow it.

[–] hash@slrpnk.net 61 points 2 months ago (12 children)
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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Even in the UK they have put Gulf of America.

The UK Government doesn't recognize that name and have officially stated they wont (at least in the short term)

[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I live in the US and I won't recognize the name either.

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[–] jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Planet America, orbiting the American sun, in the galaxy called America

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[–] helloyanis@jlai.lu 54 points 2 months ago (20 children)

No better time than the present to switch to OpenStreetMap

For Android, I use OsmAnd~ which uses OpenStreetMap data and allows you to download maps to calculate routes offline, something Google Maps couldn't do for routes by foot and by bike last time I tried.

It also has better coverage for some small paths in natural areas like forests. Give it a try!

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[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I will continue deadnaming the gulf with the name assigned at birth. It's just going through a phase.

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[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Using the website from outside of the US shows it with its proper name, but then the asshat version in parentheses.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 40 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.

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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes, Tim Apple bent the knee, but the company seems to be holding steadfast.

Apple Maps

Edit God dammit, they changed it. Cowards.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (38 children)

Degoogled since 2018

hardcore mode, google domains blocked by DNS

YouTube scrap data

GrapheneOS with used Pixel

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

In Taiwan it says:

Gulf of Mexico(Gulf of America)

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[–] eldesgraciado@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago (9 children)

This is pathetic and reeks of insecurity big time. Hope that this debacle improves your QoL, Americans.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 23 points 2 months ago

1000062835

Meanwhile in the UK

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Fuck Google and Samsung and everyone else who is preinstalled on my phone from the factory. I switched my phone OS to an AOSP GSI without the Google mobile services. Will probably be switching to WordPress from Blogger.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You should probably do some research on WordPress before migrating. Personally I wouldn't touch WordPress with somebody else's 10ft pole right now, the drama is an extreme turnoff. I've tried every AI chat bot except Automattics because I'm not interested in their games. Plenty of other great blogging platforms to choose from.

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[–] Spoilt@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mexico should rename "America"

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The irony is that it doesn't specify which America.

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[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

America is so fucking weird!

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Only most of us. Please send help.

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[–] stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 months ago (19 children)

IIRC Google shows different names and borders depending on the location you're accessing it from. They just follow whatever the local government thinks is right.

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Can someone explain the 4D chess going on here? AFAIK this was just tweet diplomacy, the US hasn't passed anything about this. So why would google want to handle all the complaints and backlash they'll take for this?

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I think something official was actually signed in the last few days. Dumbest timeline.

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[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

I wish I could degoogle my android phone. Sadly, it would mean many of the apps I use would stop working..

As far as I understand, only F-droid apps would work on e.g. GrapheneOS - is this wrong? I believe there would be issues with

  • Local chatting app
  • Local map app (As good as OrganicMaps is, it seems to have limited support in route finding)
  • Local banking app
  • Local investing app
  • Apps for university affairs
  • Zoom

I feel so sad that I am locked to the platform..

EDIT: Just checked, seems like everything is reported to work except for local banking app. Sadly, it is too convenient to ditch..

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[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“There's no saving America -- we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. Burn it down! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed!”

— Senator Armstrong.

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