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Summary

A growing Republican backlash, including hospitals and Steve Bannon, is challenging Trump’s proposed Medicaid cuts.

The GOP budget seeks at least $880 billion in reductions, risking healthcare access for millions. Bannon warned that many MAGA voters rely on Medicaid, while hospitals and moderate Republicans urged caution, fearing economic harm.

Speaker Mike Johnson supports work requirements but lacks enough fraud-related savings to meet budget goals.

Critics argue the cuts could gut essential services, contradicting Trump’s promise not to harm Medicaid recipients.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 153 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Reminder that Bannon is an ethno-fascist who's just pissy that he's been sidelined for techno-fascists. If his goals align with anti-fascists for the moment, great, but don't for a second think that he is any less vile or dangerous than Trump, Musk, or any of the other chittering goobers that are gnawing away at our democracy right now.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I'm just wondering which group is going to night-of-the-long-knives the other first.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago

I just like seeing them fight.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Fuelling ego-jostling and in-fighting is pretty much the main approach any opposition has for limiting the effectiveness of this administration until the mid-terms. They don't seem especially concerned about following the law, after all.

If they're all singing from the same sheet, they will be ruthlessly efficient in their destruction. If they're busy sniping each other, they're not actively focused on harming people.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

At this point I'd say we're deep into the 'enemy of my enemy' area. Focus on the one actively ruining things, then deal with the rest later. The trap we'd need to avoid is continuing to treat people like Bannon as allies once Trump and Musk have been dealt with, an issue that happens a lot with this kind of situation.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

He’s vile, no question. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, but you don’t rely on it or consider it quality.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

A little late for any GOP to be complaining now. This is exactly what they voted for. None of what is happening now is a surprise; it was well known during the election.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck Steve Bannon. I hope this piece of shit dies in a fire.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Fuck Bannon just like fuck Michael Cohen

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bannon's an actual supervillain because he's not abjectly stupid like Trump.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I’d say the same for Vance after his comments on the legality of the Judiciary Branch checking the power of the Executive Branch. Of course he knows better. He graduated Yale Law, yet people seem to underestimate him. It’s a dangerous combination.

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 21 points 2 days ago

He’s adaptive, but not sure if he can lead, time will tell.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

No no, I'm legitimately sure that Vance doesn't believe that the Judiciary Branch can check on the Executive.

When you get high up enough on the ladder, you don't go to school to learn things, you go there to meet the right people.

Remember: Trump is a College Graduate and was described as more or less being the dumbest student his professors ever had, and yet he still passed and even played on the baseball team (despite being too unhealthy for Vietnam)

Money talks, getting good grades is for losers and plebs who have to work for a living.

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their skills complement each other quite well. If evil has mind and heart, we got both in America right now.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Money part is covered too.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

..... Is Steve Bannon suddenly one of the good guys?

I get that this is a broken clock is right twice a day situation but still, it feels wrong, somehow

[–] VubDapple@real.lemmy.fan 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The enemy of my enemy isn't really a friend but I'm willing to support them sometimes?

[–] Azal@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

… Is Steve Bannon suddenly one of the good guys?

No. He's just been pushed to the side and is pissy about it. I'll appreciate his involvement in resisting that maybe he can pull off some of the supporters, but at the end of the day, he's still an asshole.

[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Steve Bannon siding with Joe and Jane average is a weird timeline. JFC

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bannon knows if they don't precisely fuck over the right people then the entire thing will backfire.

The dude is a complete fucking psychopath but he's right.

[–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The old guard GOP IMO has raised a populist dragon they can no longer effectively control. McConnell, the Fox News media cabal, and other old guards never stopped to realize that eventually their dragon would start to turn on them. The brand of populism used doesn't always line up with traditional GOP aims. If they harm the wrong crowd, the populist branch could quickly turn on them.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The amazing thing is it's not even the first time they've leveraged a movement for votes and then lost control of it. A century ago, the Republican Party was just the corporatocracy party. This doesn't get you votes and they were getting annihilated by the Democrats, so they used the Southern Strategy to get the racist vote. They didn't actually care one way or the other, but it got them votes. Then the racists started getting elected as Republicans and the corpocrats lost control of the party for a while. Then they did it with evangelicals and had the same problem. Now they've done it with fascists.

[–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Great points and well put.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Oh it was always going to end this way, I'm just surprised it took this long.

[–] Godofdirt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope this guy chokes on his own shit a

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

He savors that flavor.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

These fucking "plays" happen in public to distract you from larger things. These parasites need each other, don't believe their horseshit.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like that his wording indicates that hurting people by taking away healtrhcare is fine, just that they need to be careful not to hurt to many people who support you.

"It's fine if you kill grandma, just make sure you kill a grandma and grandpa who would have voted against you when you do so."

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

"You're hurting the wrong people."

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

These parasites need a heavy dose of ketamine.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or we could tax people who make over $400k/yr. More so if you make over $10million (didn’t Warren have a plan for that at one point?).

Instead of cutting everything people who make less than $150k/yr rely on.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's what Biden was planning to do and the media started crusade that he shouldn't run.

Harris no longer had this promise, but they killed her off anyway.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Doesnt seem like it would have mattered by the way voting went. Even if Biden had beat Trump, the Senate and Congress would have been Republican still. So while our Republic would have stayed standing, no real changes Biden would have tried for would have ever happened.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I disagree, the results in Congress very much are about which votes show up.

Also Biden was much more appealing to swing states than Harris was.

[–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

But if we do that how will the uber rich afford their 4th homes? Could you imagine getting by with just three homes?

(In truth, if too much wealth ends in the hands of the few, there won't be enough money to sustain the consumption needed for economies to prosper.)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Insert TF2 "We are auto-balancing the teams!" meme here

[–] notsure@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...has no one seen the Phantom Menace? you always win when your team is playing both sides, even superficially...

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago

Thus bringing us one step closer to the night of long knives

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

When Trump promised not to harm Medicaid recipients, he meant that he would not personally assault a Medicaid recipient. Of course, being Trump, that probably means he’ll do it anyway.

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