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[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago

Brother was the last decent printer company, wasn't it?

[–] TheViper123@lemm.ee 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“Third party ink” existing as a phrase is the problem.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

Meh, I think it's pretty straight forward. It's just a description of the scenario.

Mario games are first party content, because they're made by the same company that makes the console. This says nothing positive or negative about the game, just who developed it.

I've used printers that don't have cartridges, instead they just have ink wells you can fill with any ink. You do have more freedom with ink choices, but they're a different kind of hassle. It's not simply a better solution.

(Speaking of solutions, sometimes the ink you buy is more of a suspension than a solution, and it'll clump up and dry in the feed hoses, a real pain in the ass.)

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but they’re a different kind of hassle

Can you elaborate on this? I thought they would be straight up better to work with and I was thinking of buying one in the future. Is it just about the drying up issue you mentioned or are there other drawbacks?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean yeah, most systems with a reservoir are going to use some kind of feed tubes to get the ink to the print head, and tubes just clog; basically, they only have 2 states of existence and one of them is "clogged". If you do very regular printing, like a full color page at least twice a week, then they aren't going to clog, but very few people actually print that consistently.

Truth be told, I'm just done with inkjet printing all together. At this point I can't recommend anything but a laser printer, you tend to pay more up front, but then it actually works and it keeps working for a decade or more.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 84 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This sounds accurate based on the user reports. They're not bricking anything, they just make you do manual registration if you use third party toner.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

I have a black and white brother laser printer that had 3rd party toner that worked fine for years, it was even a two pack of toner. Then I installed a firmware update and immediately it threw an error stating trouble with the toner and refused to print. Tried the unopened 2nd toner, same error. Looked and searched all over online and could not find the previous firmware to try a roll back.

I then purchased a new two pack of 3rd party toner from a different brand and it worked just fine. My guess is with each new firmware they also have a set of chips to block (each toner has a chip on it) that they bundle into to update.

I'll never install another firmware update for that printer now.

I would consider what they did as bricking my toner.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 94 points 3 days ago (1 children)

....they just make you do manual registration if you use third party toner

Man, if only we had a word for disabling critical features in this way.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 138 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If there is one, it's not "bricking", because it still functions as a printer.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Upvoted for understanding the concept of words having already established definitions

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a very mutable word due to it's metaphorical nature. It's certainly not set in stone.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Standardized word meanings being recognized and adhered to really brings me joy.
I don't like that meanings change over time.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago

"my account got hacked"

No, you gave someone your information they used to log in.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh man, I have bad news for you about living languages...

But no, I know what you mean, I don't like it either.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

bad news for you about living languages...

Is it "the good ones, like French, gate-keep changes to prevent capricious drift by vapid Instagram whores, and the others are 'literally'[sic] English"?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Haha, yeah the French totally do that.

I remember when I was a kid and my dad worked in the computer industry. He went to France for work somewhere around 1990. I remember he said that France likes to keep their language pure, not adopt English words, and in technology, where there were a lot of new words, they didn't always have one for things. So for example, their word for "hard disk" translated literally to "spinning magnetic binary drive". Whereas, the Japanese would say something along the lines of "harta disku", which was at least more succinct.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ohhhhhhh, standardized word meanings are TIGHT!

[–] Snoopey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Bricking it was super easy, barely an inconvenience!

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Where were you when I was being called a pedant? 😅

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So on one hand, yes. On the other hand, there are tasks that are onerous to non technicians.

If you asked me to do it manually, sure. I've interacted with a bunch of software, understand measurement systems, done some programming etc.

My wife on the other hand... There's no overlap between ecology or life sciences in this task. Outside her ability.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah some folks in here are clearly out of touch with the capabilities of the average consumer.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do we really need to define things in terms of what the average person is capable of? Especially when the biggest barrier seems to be "willingness to put a small amount of effort into learning a simple process"?

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's no equipment calibration in ecology or life science?

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Her degrees are ECE and conservation so no.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Which is weird because one of Rossman's sources claimed that they were on the phone with Brother, asked how to do manual registration, and were told it couldn't be done unless a genuine Brother toner cartridge was installed.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Rossman's "source" was a 3 year old unconfirmed Reddit post.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Customer service reps have almost the same information that a customer would have. The only difference is they have a few more tools available to them.

Asking policy questions or anything at this level would likely get no useful info.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only if the customer service is unempowered garbage.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Welcome to the real world.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago

That person was just plain wrong. The same source showed the manual registration sheets under their reddit post.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 days ago

Maybe support agent was being lazy, or ignorant.

The portal the agents use should be able to bring up internal info via keywords like "colour registration"

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Link? Where does it say that and how does one do that?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

The links are in the article.

I don't know the specific process, but usually it's printing a registration page and then entering the offsets on the printer's control panel.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 30 points 3 days ago

Well, that's a pleasant piece of news among a number of not-so-pleasant news items.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 5 points 3 days ago

"posted by accident, trying to delete now"

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