So we're just going to have to sit here and let Israel murder these kids. Yeah religion is trash
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What can this possibly have to do with religion?..
Are you really asking this?
Christians are okay with this because Isreal is the "promised land" and "gods chosen people." They will remain on the side of Isreal because they see Isreals actions to be almost the same as their gods.
Israelis are Atheists. Zionism is an Atheist movement.
The fathe of Zionism Theodor Herzl was an Atheist.
Israel's first PM Ben Gurion was a hardcore atheist.
Israel is a consequence of Liberalism. It is pure Western colonialism nothing more.
That would be a weird kind of Christians, the classical kind would want "promised land" to be Christian and consider "God's chosen people" to have been extended to them all.
And there are still Arab Christians, Orthodox and Maronite, mostly on the other side.
So nah, that's not it. Just racism maybe, but that's not religion.
This kind od christians, they're having a raging hard-on about all the shit happening. https://youtu.be/he8HngdA98U
Weird kind of Christian in your book or not, it's true. Christians, especially the evangelical type which have a lot of power in the US support Isreal blindly.
My parents, for example, would be horrified by what isreal is doing, but because it's isreal, they happily eat up any propaganda that makes them out to be the victims.
Citizens dying? Shouldn't have been in the area!
My view of my parents has radically changed in just a matter of months.
Weird kind of Christian in your book or not, it’s true.
It's not my book, but Christians are supposed to have read that book and know what the Christian faith is.
Otherwise they are a fan group.
BTW, what do your parents think of cremation, are they aware that in Christian faith that makes one's resurrection in the Apocalypse impossible?
OK, I guess it's not very useful, I think if I walk to a church and ask people passing through the entrance what their symbol of faith is, I won't get many good answers. If I provide them with a few real variants, they'll likely choose those of other Christian confessions. And if I ask those same people on schisms and heresies, they'll be very intolerant of heretics.
Again, it doesn't matter what you think, it matters what they think. People can read the same thing and come to very different conclusions. Christians shouldn't be supporting a person like Trump if they follow the new testament, but here we are. You're demanding logic where there is little to none.
OK, I agree with that.
It's just funny that their understanding of Christianity is much more diverse (and removed from what's supposed to be true in their own churches) than it would be possibly allowable in times when religion was actually important in European societies.
I mean, if you were a dirty peasant goat farmer covered in rags, nobody would care even if you praised Odin.
But if you were a free man able to read, even more a learned man (irrelevant though), and were heard saying the smallest thing of what these people casually say, that meant problems. Not even with law.
Well at least we know Trump will handle this much more ethically than that genocide-supporting demon Harris!
I really don't know, but what was it that convinced you that Harris would stop any of this? I didn't get any inkling from her campaign that she'd do anything about the genocide, maybe I missed something
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First a statement, so i dont get put into pro or anti anyone. I utterly hate the hamas leader who decided to sacrifice palestinians for their cause by igniting this latest bloodbath just as much a I hate the israely leaders who cheefully accepted the invitation to violently take the land. I dont give a rat's ass about religion and strongly advocate against religion being a incentive to kill or be killed. Let people live for fuck's sake. End of statement. (maybe I need a short motto for this)
Now out of pure curiosity Israel tell gazaan to leave but offer no destinations, surrounding countries will not accept gazan partly out of not wishing to be destabilized and partly not wanting to help israel in the cleansing. Was westbank ever considered as a destination ? if so how was it received? It seem to me to be the least horrific solution.
Israel is in the process of taking more of the West Bank too, Israel isn't going to let Palestinians stay there long term.
You don't know Hamas' reasons for making their decisions. Maybe this was planned in any case, and Hamas just had one try at unbalancing Israel so that it would take more time and effort to kill Gaza.
Remember that IRL not all problems have satisfactory solutions. It's not a video game. Maybe to frighten Israelis one more time was the best they could do anyway.
All the separate components of what Israelis are doing they have done before, it's the scale which is different. They've gotten used to the thought that Gazan combatants won't come to their towns and kill them, but their army will come to Gaza and kill Gazans. Maybe this was meant to show that they are wrong, and they are murdering people equal to them, no other intention.
And even the emotion of that miserable jerk on the video is such, I think he wants to look like some Ottoman pasha. Israelis have no history (no, history of European\Maghreb\whatever Jews is not their history, no, of course history of some ancient kingdoms is not their history, and no, Ottoman history is not theirs too, all a bit further than needed), no culture (same as my previous parentheses, a culture is something alive, not a reference) and no national coherence (look at Israelis on the web), so they are just LARP'ing Ottomans.
I'm sure Hamas had reason they believed were for the greater good, yet they still took actions they knew would lead to this kind of carnage and found the sacrifice acceptable. Gazans did not get much say in the matter. And once the fire started, They did not get any opportunity from israel to find other way out before blowing the ever loving fuck out of everything either. I dont know what I'm was looking for exactly with this question. I really wish people would stop getting killed.
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Yep, they're saying the quiet part out loud now.
The IAF blew up 400 men, women and children and today Netanyahu said, "this is only the beginning."
You can get deported from the US now for pointing that out.
Booooo
What a shitbag.
This is insane, this message looks like something out of a Command and Conquer game.
Israel killing civilians at random probably isn't going to help bring the average Palestinian to their side against Hamas. If they were being nice to the civilians they might actually be willing to help you.
This might come as a surprise but Israel wants to kill all Palestinians and steal their land. Not "beat Hamas".
This is exactly the sentiment. In no reality would they stop once these objectives are met.
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If Israel and Russia can get away with it, then too the USA, and this is the ultimate goal: taking back the world to the days of "territorial conquests".
Most of Palestinians are under the age of 18. Basically telling a bunch of kids he's going to kill them.
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