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Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) called for Democrats to elect “brawlers” who fight for the working class to counter GOP power and oppose policies endorsed by figures like Elon Musk.

Speaking alongside Sen. Bernie Sanders in Las Vegas, she criticized Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for not filibustering a GOP spending bill and labeled the decision a “tremendous mistake.”

Ocasio-Cortez urged voters to support candidates willing to take bold stances.

She continues her “Fighting Oligarchy” tour with Sanders across Nevada, Colorado, and Arizona.

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[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

New party from scratch would be easier than turning this ugly ship around.

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Genuine question to our American friends:

How come Bernie, AOC, Crockett etc. don't start their own party? They can pledge to vote with the dems where it makes sense and they have enough political capital to continue getting elected. Seems like an ideal time to create a 3rd (actual alternative) party, no?

It might force the republicans to create an alt right and centre right party too which I feel would erode some of the alt right because from experience most Americans are not that alt right.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because it leaves open the potential for a Democrat v. Republican v. New Party election (at whatever level, not just presidency) and that's likely to improve Republican chances. Where the progressive candidates are strong it's better for them to beat the centrist in a one on one then take on the Republican with their center-left voters. Where they're weak the most a three way contest does is maybe make the right win over the center.

There are many many races without real Republican challengers where a new party could challenge moderate Democrats from the left, but in those situations the Democratic primary is the real vote and you might as well just win there.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The potential is there, but I doubt it will come to that. The same potential was there for the Tea Party to spoil GOP races. Instead, the GOP became the Tea Party.

We need a Guillotine Party to drag the Democrats back to the people.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Tea Party ran in Republican primaries. They aren't a new party.

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[–] bran_buckler@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Bernie already runs as an Independent!

State laws make ballot access difficult. Every state has its own rules and most of them are meant to exclude 3rd parties. Neither Dems nor MAGAts like competition.

[–] FRYD@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Can’t say for sure, but I’d wager it’s because of campaign finance. Corpos fund campaigns and a pro worker 3rd party would be inherently against corporate interests. Anyone who tried to break away from the democrats would end up without any funds and new democrats would run against them with vastly more money.

It’s also worth considering that they’re probably not that popular. Most of the population are disengaged from politics and tend to just vote with the people in their communities. Text based social media tends towards a leftist bias and probably makes them seem more popular than they really are.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because we have this stupid two party system. Its the second worst thing about our constitution (the first being the presidency)

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They kind of are in a different party: the Democratic Socialists of America isn’t on the ballot but Bernie runs as an independent who caucuses with Democrats. If Democrats wanted to, they could run a candidate against him. But to form a truly independent third party, you’d just be splitting the votes on the left.

As you get to state and national elections where much of the nation is pretty evenly divided, running as a third party all but ensures the Republican will win (even without winning a majority in most states, though a few use different systems). In essence, our system requires coalitions to be made before the election rather than after.

You could compare it to UK elections. In 2024, Labour won 33% of the votes but won 411 of 650 seats because the Conservatives, Liberal Democrats, and regional parties split the rest.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Democrats wanted to, they could run a candidate against him.

They actually couldn't really. Bernie wins the Democratic primary in his state then just runs as an Independent. He's the chosen representative of the Vermont Democratic Party.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I stand corrected. Everyone listen to 👆that poster.

My state (Louisiana) has a different election system — actually several and it’s currently a confusing mess — and I’m not really familiar with Vermont’s primaries.

In Louisiana, the November election is actually technically a primary. If no one gets 50%, the top two candidates (regardless of party) have a run-off in December. For various reasons over the years, some elections were changed to be more like first past the post with closed party primaries. Others weren’t. And now, it’s just a messy hodgepodge. (And to top it all off, our governor and many other elections are “off-year” so it doesn’t align with federal elections. We’re voting on Amendments on March 29th. It’s idiotic.)

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Money. They wouldn't be able to fundraise the money they need to get messages out to people. Then there's the depressingly large number of Americans who vote by party in a system meant for voting by individual. They would lose funding and then get smashed in the elections because nobody knew the party was even there.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the response. That's the thing - I feel like they're big enough personalities on their own to get elected. AOC did it initially on a shoestring is my understanding and she's well past the point of having voter recognition.

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[–] alykanas@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Need to stop being shithead neoliberals

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yup. The DNC uses all their fight to keep progressives out, it's pathetic.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Elect me to the House or Congress and I will personally throw fists at any GOP aligned member around me.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My SO and I have joked that while I could never win a local election, if I ran, I might just be able to get within punching range of our shitty representative.

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Fuck yeah!

Meanwhile, the party leadership is thinking "maybe bigger paddles next time?"

Been saying this for decades now and one of the myriad of reasons I don't donate or volunteer for Democrats in decades now.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I get a chuckle with how in the US, physical violence is used as a metaphor for nearly everything

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Uh oh! That's SURE to PISS OFF a couple Republicans who would NEVER vote for Democrats!

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