Seeing alot of (for good reason) depressed folks here. I think we need to build community, in real life or online if there's no other way.
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Wouldn't it be funny if that broken spirit is by intention because the possibilities of the internet are big enough that a motivated youth could change everything?
Came across my feed yesterday. He's in the UK but it applies to almost every country.
I'm 45 and since I was a kid I heard my father telling me his gen was the last getting richer than the one before.
We (westerns), did reach the peak and now every gen will be poorer year after year.
That's why rich people is hoarding wealth like never before. That's why Elmo wants to establish fascism, abolish worker rights and wants the people doing more childs. It doesn't matter for him if we get even poorer, he just wants to make his wealth future proof.
Those of us in our mid-50s aren't exactly happy either right now.
You still at least had the option to buy a house. But yeah I get it.
I’m 41 and I’ve been miserable since elementary school.
Its me, hi, im the problem it’s me
I think you should identify as a problem instead of identifying as the problem if possible. The former attitude has more 'spunk' as the yanks say.
Are you me?
Could be, we’re are these voices coming from?
They're me too. Hello, us!
It pisses me off so much because the goddamn problem is RIGHT IN FRONT of everyone's eyes and yet so much energy is spent on bullshitting the masses....I want off this ride
Is it that clear? What is the problem and what would be your aproach to a solution?
The problem is entrenchment of authoritarian techno-feudalism combined with the hubris of "might makes right". The solution is wildcat strikes.
How else make line go up?
Not just under 30. My husband is disabled and if ACA or VA benefits get cut he will die. Horribly but slowly, in our house where I will have to take care of him until the end. And pray we still have enough of a functioning society to bury him when the time comes. How I am supposed to feel anything other than horror and dread for the future!?
I'm sorry. I wish I could continue paying to keep your husband alive. It's what a fellow countrymen would do. But half of our electorate is filled with sociopaths.
Fuck this place.
Slightly related perhaps, at least if you're an HBS grad.
Portion of job-seeking Harvard Business School students who were unemployed three months after graduation
- in 2022 : 1/10
- In 2024 : 1/4
From Harper's Index 4/2025
Harvard business bros is how we got into this mess in the first place. Quarterly targets are a scourge on humanity.
Jack fucking Welch is why we have this mess, the rest are just imitators.
Maybe having money hungry dads who were in their 20s in the 80s when Regan was creaming his pleats over deregulating banks and Wall Street who then went on to send their wet socks to business schools was a scam all along.
When asked how miserable millennials are, the response was overwhelmingly unchanged, in-fact the generation regards itself as having the shittiest life experience marked by late-stage capitalism, and the adoption of a boring cyberpunk dystopia. US millennials largely see retirement as something impossible, as many cannot afford homes, cars, or healthcare.
See, that's why they just mention under 30s, because it's far worse for the rest of us.
I remember a post where people were asking millennials what their retirement plans were.
Vast majority of it was either suicide or hoping work would let them clock out before they dropped dead.
I am in my mid 20s and Gen Z. Most under 30s are Gen Z now.
Yes, I know, thats why in my made up quote I talked about millennials.
We've been suffering for a hell of a long time. A lot of us were young children when we watched the planes slam into the world trade center on the morning news before going to school and acting like we didn't see the most horrific thing in the world.
Right after Columbine of course. And can't forget about the Oklahoma bombing. It's... Been rough
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We view the late 40s through the 70s as a golden age for the American middle class. People raising families off a single income. Yearly vacations. Affordable higher education.
Know why?
We taxed the ever-loving fuck out of the wealthy back then.
Then the wealthy bought the politicians and stopped that from happening.
And now we're all sad.
DO. NOT. VOTE. FOR. ANYONE. THAT. DOESN'T. RUN. ON. TAXING. THE. WEALTHY. MORE.
The pay gap between CEO and ordinary worker was the smallest back there, not because the taxes, there were less taxes back then, but because those CEO were decent people, not predatory like right now. Todays C-Suite are predatory people, they're not humans, they're money machines that need every penny. There should be law that don't allow pay gap between CEO and ordinary worker to be greater than 100k USD or any other currency in other countries. Those who pursue luxury would say that's very low. Yes it's very low because everyone who works in successfull company deserve success. Not only small group on top. That is main difference between companies from 40s and 70s and companies right now.
Is absurd that we essentially have a regressive income tax. I also wouldn't ignore the global environment during that period.
During those decades, the US was effectively the only industrialized nation in the world. Everyone else either never had factories to begin with, or had smoldering piles of rubble where their factories used to be.
I found it astonishing that there isn't even a 0% tax bracket anymore federally. It starts at 10% when you make your first fucking dollar. We've gone batshit backwards in this country to the point where we're trying to get every last dime from poor people so we can almost afford to have buy-borrow-die oligarchs that never pay a penny in federal taxes.
Technically the standard deduction is the zero tax bracket.
Yep understood but there's a reason they made the switch and that reason is so they can keep the shit they took out of checks of those who don't file.
I'm sure they did the math on it, they're sneaky assholes through and through.
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No shit, we're being taken over by literal nazis. This place sucks.
To be fair, a non-insignificant amount of the men under thirty think things are so bad because the Nazis aren't taking over fast enough.
As do a significant amount of the women. Like yeah, there's a slight gender gap in trump voters, but it's not nearly as big as you'd think or hope.
Yeah, ladies under 30, please adopt a never-fuck mindset toward any conservative. Those things tanked the country and deserve 0 pussy.
Edit: Should blanket just be any Trump voter. Knowing who you're fucking is as important as using STD and pregnancy protection.
Honestly I'm surprised anyone would even want to sleep with a trumper. Like, what's the appeal? It's not like they treat women (or anyone, really) well
Usually religious brainwash
I'm over 30 and I'm pretty fuckin' miserable, too!
But I guess I was actually paying attention to how fucked things have been politically since I was able to start voting pushing nearly 30 years ago now.
In regards to the actual article:
The researchers say they were able to pick up on the distrust by asking whether or not people believed someone would return a lost wallet. Compared to the Nordic countries, people in the U.S. were more likely to underestimate the kindness of others.
“It requires that strangers are to be trusted, that they will go beyond the call of duty and be kind and try and get it back to the rightful owner, or drop it with the police, which means you need to trust the police,” De Neve says. “That single item of the wallet drop is very powerful.”
There's literally, literally a flip side to this "lost wallet" equation in the US as well. Have you ever been the person who was kind enough to return a lost wallet? Have you also ever been the person who was accused by the person you returned it to of stealing a bunch of things (like cash) out of the wallet? It's actually a fairly common occurence in the the US. So not only is there distrust in whether or not others will return a wallet, there is a valid distrust by people who find lost wallets that the wallet owner won't lie about the original contents of the wallet and accuse them of theft anyway. At what point does it just become pointless to bother with returning a wallet at all if you're going to be accused of a crime because you did the right thing?
Apologies for (slight retch) a reddit link:
https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1j1yqt9/found_a_wallet_with_200_and_i_returned_it_to_its/
Bottom line: The US is filled with selfish untrustworthy fucking maniacs.
This lack of trust is literally the main goal of mass media, especially right wing media. When everyone else is your enemy, you won't work together with them for your own benefit. Instead, you'll trust the strongman to keep you safe from all the fake danger.
Social media accelerated this by an incredible amount. Today's America feels like a completely different society from the one I grew up in the 90s.
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Almost zero chance of buying a home or affording rent. Prices going out of control on almost everything. A Nazi in the White House and social media so toxic it melts your mind. The beatings will continue until morale improves. What a terrible place we have created for the next generation.
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Oh and it isn't like Americans over 30 are any happier?
I'm here to assure you that we're not. The only ones who are happy are boomers who lucked into an impossibly good economy that will never return. They amassed wealth and think it's because they worked hard while in conditions that only existed because multiple economies were destroyed by war while USA was untouched. And now they continue to hoard power in government and refuse to let younger generations have a seat at the table. Fuck them.
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