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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 261 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Evangelicals Are Now Rejecting 'Liberal' Teachings of Jesus

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching'turn the other cheek'[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.

"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis."

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 120 points 3 days ago (8 children)

And people dont understand why I say the orange clown is an Antichrist and may be the Antichrist.

The doomed by a perfect circle is very disturbing accurate.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Came here to share the same article.

It's truly uncanny

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I reckon it has a lot to do with personality traits of evil people

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, while there are a few odd specifics that line up, most of the predictions are just describing the personality traits of a tyrant.

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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Prosperity gospel has been shitting on the red text of Christ for decades now.

Jesus hated wealth inequality. The only group he said would never enter heaven were the wealthy ("easier to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven", in other words, it isn't possible for the rich to enter heaven). Jesus also violently flipped tables and whipped the wealthy to drive them out of temples.

So conservative "Christians" abandoned the teachings of Christ many decades ago.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not just the wealthy, but people who were using the temple as a place of business (and likely ripping people off on interest)

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The actual story of the money changers is worse than most people know.

See, as part of their religious observance, the ancient Hebrews made a pilgrimage to the Temple. This was a mandatory part of their faith, much like the Hajj is for modern Muslims.

Those who were too poor to bring their own sacrifice could buy one at the Temple, but the Temple didn't take the coin of the realm (the Roman coins), they only accepted Shekels.

So, the Money Changers. They set up in the Temple itself and were fleecing pilgrims of all their money.

In comes Jesus, who flipped tables and broke out the whip, and less than a week later he was crucified.

And this is the only part of the bible that I believe is 100% historically accurate. A peace loving Rabbi threw a fit over the Money Changers and was crucified for it.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 31 points 3 days ago

I guess we're going to get more denominational splits based on if Jesus' teachings about loving others is Biblically accurate. Yet another reason why he isn't coming back.

The real reason.

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[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago
[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Republicans would be very upset with you using the bible against them, if they had ever read the bible to know what it said.

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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

https://archive.org/stream/god-the-original-segregationist-by-carey-l.-daniel/God%20the%20Original%20Segregationist%20by%20Carey%20L.%20Daniel_djvu.txt

**But if God intended that the Negro race should be Segregated in Africa then why did He curse the children of Ham and decree that they should be the servants, or slaves, ot the other races?’’

God did not. Canaan was the only one specifically cursed to be a ‘‘servant of servants’’ (Genesis 9:20-27). Even if we admit the possibility that all his descendants were included in the curse (the best Bible scholars disagree on this point). we must still remember that Canaan was only one of the four sons of Ham and therefore he fathered only a MINORITY of the black race. And as I said before, even that servile minority were to live in a different part of the country from the Hebrews (Genesis 10:19).

It cannot be positively proven from the Scriptures that the Negroes were cursed to be black because of Nimrod’s rebellion or because of Ham’s sexual laxity at the time of his father Noah’s drunkenness. But there are some verses that seem to leave that implication. For example in Jeremiah 13:23 we read, ‘*Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.’’ Here the black Skin of the Negro is obviously a symbol of evil. This verse also shows that God meant for that skin to STAY BLACK and not be blended into a Thousand shades of mulatto.

The notion that the Negroes of this country have INHERITED the “‘deep Sunburn’’ that their forefathers are said to have suffered in Africa is ridiculous. Sunburns are not inherited, no matter how deeply they penetrate, not even by the first generation, not to mention the tenth or twelfth generation.

If we are to reject the curse of Ham and the rebellious leadership of Nimrod as explanations of why God made the‘Negro black then there is only one other possible explanation to be found anywhere in the Bible or out of it: THE GOOD LORD WAS SO ANXIOUS FOR THE HAMITES TO BE SEPARATED AND SEG- REGATED PEOPLE THAT HE MADE THEM RADICALLY DIFFERENT IN THEIR APPEARANCE FROM THE PEOPLE OF ALL OTHER RACES. He made their skin color different for for the same reason that He made their language different and for the same reason that He assigned them a different habitation.. At least we would be much kinder and more charitable to our colored friends if we gave that explanation.

The southern Bible doesn't read like yours and mine does, they made some notes in the margins.

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[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

This isn't really new though, it's just saying the quite part out loud. always-has-been.gif.

Neoliberalism is the cause of the decay and paved the way for fascism. If you let large conglomerates own everything including news media and social media and then sell access to spew vile hate speech and disinformation to people, the current result is to be expected. It's actually kind of refreshing that they actually come out and say it.

These people also don't believe in equality, they believe inequality of humans is fundamentally morally correct. Neoliberals believe in inequality based on class/wealth, fascists believe in inequality based on identity like race or gender.

The true sin is ignorance and neglect.

[–] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 146 points 3 days ago (11 children)
[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 139 points 3 days ago (3 children)

"I hate you guys, kill yourself" said Jesus probably during daylight saving time because he didn't sleep enough.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

Fair enough, that's enough to make me give up on humanity.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 47 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The only difference between a religion and a cult is time

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 36 points 3 days ago

I've heard the distinction described as "it's a cult when the founder is still around making stuff up, it becomes a religion after he dies and his followers are left to continue doing that in his name."

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Apparently started from a hate ministry in 2021... Dude named James White on Twitter.

"When you start with man as image-bearing creature of God, you can understand why sympathy is good, but empathy is sinful.

Do not surrender our mind to the sinful emotional responses of others."

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago (7 children)

My sister once told my mom that empathy is what's ruining this country. It's not even like it was a misinterpretation/misunderstanding, that's almost word for word how she said it. I can't fathom how someone comes to that line of thinking.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

No thinking was involved. She was repeating something she heard on fascist media.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

To me it feels like social darwinism mentality - the belief that helping the weak survive weakens the herd. AKA "hard choices".

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

The problem is that's actually the opposite of how that works. If you refuse to care for the weak in your community, you foster this atmosphere of sociopathy and mistrust that causes the group to destroy itself.

Why the hell do you think there are only two Sith in Star Wars?

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 103 points 3 days ago

"Thou shalt not even try to be a decent person"

the 11th commandment I guess

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

Deuteronomy 15:7 If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them.

Luke 14:13-14 But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.

Luke 12:15: Then he said, “Beware! Guard against every kind of greed. Life is not measured by how much you own.”

1 John 4:20 If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.

1 John 3:17 But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?

John 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Matthew 25 (separation of the sheep and the goats) is pretty much the only time Jesus straight-up threatens people with Hell, and he's basing it on the treatment of the poor, sick, and social outcasts.

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Warning to Rich Oppressors

5 Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.[a] 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+5&version=NIV

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Empathy is the enemy of the the manipulative. Their shallow and transparent manipulations wont get past someone with even a small amount of it.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 49 points 3 days ago

If Jesus ever returned, evangelicals will try to crucify him

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Cowards fear empathy and maim their own capacity for it, because experiencing the pain of others hurts. Being surrounded by extreme, intolerable pain is the most difficult part of being vegan.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 days ago

So no empathy for Elon Musk and his crybaby butthurt feelings? Fine by me!

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 43 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Remind me which level of Hell the hypocrites are in? Is it higher or lower than the one reserved for Jesus now?

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

The mindset of magatards.

[–] Trees@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.

Daniel 11:32

He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior… He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.

Daniel 8:25, 2 Thess 2:10

… a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.

Daniel 11:21

After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.

Daniel 11:23

He will try to change the set times and the laws.

Dan. 7:25

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Hearing voices from people that aren't real is a pretty serious mental condition. I'm convinced religion and all the evil committed on its behalf all just trace back to the root of shit mental healthcare.

[–] tibi@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

On a similar note, the old testament had a historical purpose - to unite disparate tribes and create a national identity against the threat posed by the Assyrian and Babylonian Empires.

The new testament is just a collections of writings and letters. We have no idea who wrote them, they lied on the cover saying the texts are written by the apostles. And by a pretty arbitrary process, a bunch of priests picked their favorite writings and made them into a cannon.

If the same thing happened today, nobody would believe them outside maybe a fringe cult.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

probably because he's echoing what Elon said about empathy

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I find it more than a little humorous that their defining attribute for the last hundred years is so easily abandoned

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