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[–] jizzong@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't deport you based on your speech (thankfully this isn't vague at all) but can deport you for the crime of not having commited any crime.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

It's like the old classic: Can't be fired for discrimination, but can be fired for any reason

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago

It's always fun seeing someone grapple with "we have a long and storied juridical history of precedents" vs. "what if the state just does it" but this gets especially stupid considering the US runs on common law and once the first judge says all of that's legal you get to colour change basically every square there and just throw the circles away

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago

i would love to know exactly why the new york crimes, rag it may be, thanks that being deported without being convicted of a crime is more legal than deporting someone based on speech. because there is a subtle difference there, and it's also entirely inappropriate to communicate that with a pithy graph in the paper of record. they're just justifying slavery and neofascism

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago
[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

again if there's no due process just throw this whole chart out because as it turns out your status as a citizen can change based on the whims of the agent and after they deport you "oops out of our jurisdiction now". most americans don't care unless it happens to someone they care about because they look white and "no one would deport a white person we belong here"

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

"Unlikely" aka yes but we will pretend like it's a no

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Trump should deport the New York Crimes to the bottom of the ocean

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

They should voluntarily join the DoGE watchlist. That should be more than enough.

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If something 100% happens, how is it “unlikely?” Or are they just going off of the statistical unlikelihood of each single individual reader being deported based on speech and having committed no crime?

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Nytimes: "you know who won't be the deported the lib reading this."

[–] miz@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Mahmoud Khalil

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

“Rights” that can be revoked whenever Trump feels like it lmao

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, not even twisting the facts. Just plain old lying.

At least the NYCrimes has a precedent.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

RACIsm chart kelly

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

It used to be that you could deport immigrants for no reason whatsoever, but Trump wants to STILL HAVE THAT BE POSSIBLE!!!11!

If ever there was proof that Trump is just the racism continuity candidate with extra headlines.

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Data visualisation is my passion

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

How the fuck are you supposed to interpret any of this? I know that's the point but this is a new low

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

⭕ Yes, actually, when you get down to it

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Its just not fucking true lmao ICE has already done both to fully naturalised citizens.