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Apparently, Ukrainian drones pushed through and started a chain reaction.

Explosions reportedly continued for hours, and authorities evacuated nearby settlements. Initial reports indicate that the site, previously protected by one of Russia’s densest air defense networks, suffered catastrophic damage.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Initial reports indicate that the site, previously protected by one of Russia’s densest air defense networks, suffered catastrophic damage.

Good chance Ukraine could hit the Kremlin if they wanted to. They have drones with the 500 mile range to pull it off, and Russian air defense has become a joke. The only thing that's been stopping them was US worries about actions like that causing escalation. Ukraine has had less and less reason to care what the US thinks of late.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly, hitting the Kremlin may actually cause nuclear escalation. Putin's ego would not survive the hit. Zelenskyy probably realizes this too, he's not stupid.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk at this point, what would Russia have to gain for radiating out Ukraine? Don't they want that land?

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

It's the age old principle of "If I can't have it, nobody can" that I'm afraid of the most. Anyone reasonable wouldn't go by it, but if Putin is afraid he's gonna die, he might as well.

oh look they picked a new pope already

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Juicy target and hopefully the shrapnel flew fucking everywhere.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

I enjoy when the news headlines remind us they CAN be good

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Excellent news! Slava Ukraini!

[–] gaael@lemm.ee 54 points 2 days ago (21 children)

I hace no idea how serious a blow this is. Can anyone provide any sense of magnitude for these 264 000 tons of munitions? Like how big a chunk of total ammunition stockpile woukd this be? How big is it compared to current manufacturing rate?

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's not that easy to calculate as "munitions" can be anything from artillery shells to ballistic missiles.

If we assume it's mostly/all artillery shells, it's roughly one month of production. Russia currently produces 250.000 units of artillery shells per month if everything goes right. Russia uses roughly 10.000 of them per day, so it would be almost one months worth of combat.

If the stockpile contained more of glide bombs and ballistic missiles, the damage is even worse because they are significantly more expensive to produce.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But a unit of artillery shell doesn't weigh a ton.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

True, for some reason, I thought of units instead of tons lmao.

The damage is significantly worse then, probably months worth of production, maybe even a year. A standard shell weighs like what, 45kg?

[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

264.000.000kg/(45kg/unit) = around 5.866.666 units? Just wanted to have the number so others see the impact.

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

5.866.666 That is ~587 days worth of munitions if 10k a day is a good info mentioned above. bonkers

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[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Must have been one hell of a fireworks show, good hunting finding the next one.

Slava Ukraini

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 179 points 3 days ago (15 children)

I'm pretty sure competent militaries store their munitions in networks of dozens if not hundreds of earthen bunkers per site, specifically so shit like this can't happen.

264 kilotons is a fuckload of bombs.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 118 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Competent ones, I think they do.

Possible explanations:

  • yet another time, someone had set money aside for personal use, consequently the bunkers had doors made of plywood or roofing tin :)

  • arrival of drones was timed to match the loading / unloading of an ammunition train (that's when even competent militaries have to bring their stuff out)

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 124 points 2 days ago (25 children)

Can we have links to more reputable, known news sites please? Never heard of that one. Here's the BBC.

Russia's military blamed the blast on ammunition which had detonated after the storage building caught fire due to a "violation of safety requirements".

Huh, I suppose maybe a drone-sized violation?

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Have seen euromaidanpress articles before, I think they're legit if not a bit sensationalist and obviously very pro-Ukraine.

And of course Russia blames a smoooooking incident. There's this one Russian guy who just smokes everywhere he shouldn't. Munition storages, aviation bases, flagship Moskva...

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (30 children)

Is there a particular reason I only ever see ukraine positive war stuff? And when I see negative ukraine war stuff it's coming out of trumps mouth?

No, I don't follow it religiously.

[–] xiii@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Russia had no significant gains over the last years with half a million casualties (KIA, MIA, lost limbs, war prisoners), the logistics is crumbling — they use donkeys, the economy and demographic are in the toilet but Russia is extremely good at spreading propaganda. So much so that the US admin is parroting it and putting pressure on Ukraine.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just to add, Ukrainians information is remarkably reliant and verifiable, the russian information is kremlin lies, so from the start the russian part is just not very interesing at all.

Also obviously they both talk about good things for them, classic war propaganda.

Add in that Ukraine is the (incredible) underdog and here we are.

[–] TheLunatic@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is an important point that people like to ignore, Whilst both sides exaggerate ukraine tells you there are 30 cows in a field when you can only see 28, Russia tells you there is an elephant and three dragons in the same field then tells you you're falling for ukraines propaganda when you tell them you can only see cows.

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 51 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Basically? Wartime propaganda

Ukraine has been doing individual, small wins like this and they obviously toot their horn when it happens

But on a large scale, Ukraine has been slowly losing ground

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

small wins like this

This is a medium to large win.

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[–] TheLunatic@lemm.ee 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Russia's apparent war plan involves lots of slow attritional fighting, which isn't flashy and rarely results in a "Win". Not to mention we kind of do see the russian equivalent of this attack (Bombing hospitals, shopping malls and power infrastructure) reported on, it's just not considered a win to kill civilians in the west.

A view I agree with not only on the basis of valuing peace, life and the safety of noncombatants but also on the basis of it not being an effective way to win a war, e.g Korean war, Vietnam war, or the near leveling of London and large swaths of europe in Ww2. Strategic bombing of civilian assets just makes the people being bombed more likely to fight back and willing to endure higher casualties on the front lines.

Fun tidbit, this depot explosion was initially claimed to be "Negligence and mishandling of munitions" by the kremlin, which along with "Smoking accident" is basically shorthand for "Was hit by a drone but we don't want to let our people know that we aren't able to keep the war away from them".

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago

Like the sinking of the Moskva, they choose a story that makes them look incompetent rather than giving the enemy a win. If you have to make this choice, you might be losing.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Negative stuff does come out from time to time, especially when Russia makes big advances, but the underdog effect means that Ukraine typically gets more attention and media coverage for their successful military operations. Russia has had scant few successes over the past few years so they are spreading propaganda that make them look as if they are winning which is getting picked up and parroted by Trump and other neo-fascists in the West.

Because Russia doesn't go after strategic targets. Only civilians and because (at least in Europe) the vast majority of people fucking hate Russia. Especially countries that share a border with them or used to be part of the soviet union. Nobody hates Russia more than Russians who have managed to get out though. I had a russian colleague who basically gave up on seeing his family until after the war was over and he has no intention of ever living there after.

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[–] Retreaux@lemmy.world 89 points 3 days ago

This fucking rules. Eat poo, Shittin.

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