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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 183 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Get strapped, the law isn’t going to protect us and seems to be used to harass us

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Armed minorities are harder to oppress.

Organized armed minorities make governments afraid.

Make no mistake, this is yet another message, "we do not care about you or your struggles". Listen when they tell you they won't protect you.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sounds like we need the Pink Panthers

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 132 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait...

The title made me think the attacker couldn't be charged with a HATE crime... Which is dumb and shitty and makes me want to revolt.

But they aren't charging him with ANY CRIME.

What in the actual fuck

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Gays don’t have rights per fatheads who think a fairy tale is reality. Remember these people think they are going to heaven.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

A self invented reward that they argue over. I think when you die you're dead and that's it, so to me it's just people making up bizarre ways to congratulate themselves on following their own cancerous code of ethics. Like sure whatever it takes, man. Just... Maybe your ethics are fucked up and wrong and you're in a cult.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 109 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

from the wiki article on the murder

Assistant DA Kelly Wolford said, "A hate crime would make this charge about Sam’s gender or about Sam’s race, and it’s so much bigger. To limit us to a hate crime would be an injustice to Sam. Sam was beaten, assaulted, sexually abused, starved, held captive. And we cannot make sense of that. We cannot put that on his gender, and we cannot put that on his race"

like what are you talking about

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Once she got a cop who raped a kid weekend sentences.

Here’s what happened to Sam by the way - I’m sure this was just a regular murder and none of these actions were motivated by transphobic hate.

From about Jan. 1 until his death on Feb. 2, Nordquist was prevented from using a phone, according to Wolford. He was kept in confinement and forced to stand and kneel facing the wall. He was hit, punched, kicked and sexually assaulted, she said.

He was also denied proper nutrition and hydration, forced to eat feces, forced to drink urine and chew spit, Wolford said. He was physically restrained, forced to obey commands like a dog, covered in the face with towels and shirts, duct taped and had bleach poured on him by the defendants, she said.

He was repeatedly struck with numerous objects including sticks, dog toys, rope, bottles, belts, canes and wooden boards, according to court documents.

Edit: anyone remember why Norm McDonald got fired from SNL? Was it OJ or was it what he said about Brandon Teena?

[–] celeryfc@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure it was cuz one of the nbc top dogs was close with OJ and Norm wouldn’t stop making jokes about OJ being a murderer. He was warned to stop and instead of giving in, he doubled down. Members of the cast and writers respected him for it and have spoke about it on podcasts and such.

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 87 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Maricopa County Sheriff's Office has been a rolling human rights disaster for years. It needs to be torn the fuck down.

Frankly sheriff's offices in general need to be abolished. It's a relic of the frontier colonial era and, surprise, they never gave up their power willingly. They often have the lowest training standards in the profession, and are the face of partisan politics in law enforcement, to the benefit of conservatives 99% of the time. A lot of the time I hear about some flagrant abuse of power from cops it's from a sheriff's deputy.

EDIT: doesn't seem like the sheriffs were involved here, just the county prosecutor and Phoenix police. What you get from scrolling at work and not reading articles.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't mean you're wrong though. Your comment is still very relevant.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They often have the lowest training standards in the profession

Law enforcement isn't a "profession." Practitioners of real "professions," such as medicine, law, and engineering, have "professed an oath" (that's where the word comes from) to act in the public interest (i.e. to protect the public) and abide by a code of ethics. That includes things like acting against their own interests and refusing orders from people with power over them, if necessary. In contrast, the courts have ruled in Warren v. District of Columbia that law enforcement officers explicitly have no such obligation.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 63 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

just in case anyone thinks this is just about it being designated as a hate crime. No they did not charge anything despite this guy having massive injuries and the other guy having nothing to show for it. If you luigi, do it in arizona with no cameras:

But the county attorney’s office ultimately viewed the case as a “he said, he said” scenario, with Lawton claiming he acted in self-defense. According to the police report, Lawton told investigators that while slowing down the vehicle, he was “punched in the back of the head and on the side of his body so many times that he saw stars.”

No witnesses corroborated Lawton’s account, and it's unclear how much the county attorney's office leaned on his story. But without video footage of the attack—Uber allows drivers to install them but does not require it—the evidence collected would appear to focus heavily only on eye witnesses.

“I don’t understand how it could be deemed self-defense or why it was turned down,” Almaraz said. “I was unarmed, he had multiple weapons in the car—it just didn’t make any sense. It was heartbreaking. I was completely assaulted and violated. I could have lost my life.”

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

with Lawton claiming he acted in self-defense.

Ah, the gay panic defense.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Now not just for cops!

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago

“punched in the back of the head and on the side of his body so many times that he saw stars.”

Surely there would be bruises or medical records if this were the case.

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[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Wait wait wait, you said it was a gay man that was stabbed? Sorry, my hands are tied. Playbook says gay guys can't get stabbed.

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

He probably asked the knife to penetrate him, it's what the gays do, you know. - Detective Brownbeater

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

The body has a way of shutting that whole thing down.

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So we are allowed to stab people if there’s no cameras?

[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Billionaires don't like this simple trick.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

Neither do judges

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So if I call Trump a slur in AZ, stab him, and run off that's cool, right?

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No. Because he is wealthy.

But if you say Donald was gay, maybe?

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude... he was fucking stabbed? That is assault with a deadly weapon and/or attempted murder/manslaughter at least.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Because there is no law in Arizona.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago

The Rule of Law is dead in America.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

"The man should be given honors for doing the reich the favor of disposing of the untermensch, even if it did fail."

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I used to drive thru Arizona several times a year. It was tradition for me and my dog, once we were in Arizona, to pull over and take the biggest, greasiest shit we could, on Arizona. Like it deserved.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Red states are becoming very scary places

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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maricopa County Attorney rules there is enough evidence to lay charges on the victim. However the victim had not show up to their scheduled court date, allegedly detained by ICE in the lobby of the court, on the day of the hearing. /s

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Joe Arpaio's old county. They're keeping the traditions alive, I see.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like someone should find that attacker and do the exact same thing to them, seeing as it’s non-chargeable behavior.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Project Fucking 2025!

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