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"The Constitution is clear," Miller told reporters outside the White House. "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So, to say that's an option we're actively looking at ... a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not."

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[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 83 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"The executive is going to skip habeas corpus if the courts don't support our current disregard for habeas corpus"

"Checks and balances" was a masterful marketing slogan. It's worked on people for almost 250 years.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago

Whatdaya mean the court having no enforcement mechanism for its power of determining constitutionality that it granted itself isn’t a useful check?

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 73 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Genuinely surprised no one in the US who was about to be a victim of state sanctioned kidnapping has decided death is preferable to CECOT and just started [redacted] ICE agents.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 49 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

they send a fucking company of paras to arrest handfuls of people, the whole strategy is to make fighting seem hopeless

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Depends on what you're hoping to achieve. Victory and survival? Very unlikely if alone. Multiple casualties, a lifetime of trauma for the rest and a reason to think twice before kicking in the next door? Achievable alone with planning and drill, I think.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

i don't think most people have the energy to plot a rambo standoff with paramilitaries, who don't generally announce what they're doing in advance.

i'm not shittalking resistance, i promise, but we cannot expect people to spontaneously develop a consciousness and militancy, even in extreme conditions. that's what organizing is for

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with your assessment, I just wasn't sure. I've just seen a lot of people (to be fair, mostly liberals) doing that thing where they immediately take any talk of last-minute resistance as useless, a foregone waste of time, a larp, ect, and i dont think that kind of talk helps anyone. Not that I think you're engaging in it, I've just felt the need lately to push a little in the other direction in those exchanges and remind people, without slipping into rambo fantasies, what's historically possible with a little resources and dedication. But you're right, those examples are aspirational and cannot be expected from most disorganized individuals.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

i support this. i just treat hexbear like a place where everyone is a jaded activist already so i'm less concerned with the public-facing shit.

some hexbeariens are new though, so your approach is still instructive and valuable

[–] eyyImwalkin@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

then don't def3nd against the en3my, 0ffend against the en3my. be proactive

make yourself un-an0unc3d!

[–] jack@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ok go ahead

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

you're asking for more dorner and i don't think they're all that common

[–] acab_means_cop_Dva@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ice*, ICE, Baby

*transitive verb form

[–] eyyImwalkin@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

your mind thinks like mine

I did it first but feel free to save it, it's all yours. Thanks Lori

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

most people are too nice and innocent for their own good.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 70 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's tradition, at this point.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 61 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 68 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And then you have absolute dick holes like this

POINT OF PROCESS! nerd Suspending the right to a trial is ACTUALLY under the jurisdiction of Congress. No argument with the explicit justification of crushing rebellion, just that the Cheeto is doing it instead of a bipartisan Committee on Un-American Activities.

The Constitution is shit. It is a slaveowner document. The Bill of Rights, in a vacuum of both textual and historical context, is okay, but all these motherfuckers who wax poetic about The Constitution need to actually read Articles I-V. They need to read the Federalist papers. They need to understand this was meant to be a plantation / finance / settler colonial aristocracy from the very beginning. The bicameral legislature was literally designed to undermine democracy. The electoral college was literally designed to undermine democracy. There has been an outspoken contempt for the will of the people from the very founding of this republic. The "founders" don't even attempt to hide this in their literature. They explicitly state this as their motivation on several occasions.

In the first couple years of Trump 1.0, I got the impression that the USA had lost its way. I started reading a bunch of this shit, trying to figure out where things had gone wrong. What I discovered was that everything is actually working exactly as intended.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

#1 Prison state and weapons dealer in the 'free' world.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 56 points 3 weeks ago
[–] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Binky 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Step one for full dictatorship.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

Always has been

[–] iie@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

this is the time for civility libs to really shine as an appendage of fascism

[–] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

have a corpse on us :kelly:

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

"can be suspended during invasions" is one of those funny little clauses dotted along """liberal""" states that reminds you that fascism deeply embedded into the system by design, and always as a protective measure for the status quo