this post was submitted on 15 May 2025
843 points (98.6% liked)

World News

46637 readers
1825 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

The Boeing 747-8 being offered to Donald Trump by Qatar once served the Qatari royal family and has been sitting unsold for years.

The jet, a lavishly configured version of Boeing's largest passenger aircraft, has been lingering without a buyer since being put up for sale in 2020, according to aircraft listings and aviation analysts.

John Goglia, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board, told Forbes that giving the 747-8 to the U.S. would allow the Qataris to avoid maintenance costs that were only getting higher—with the 747 fleet shrinking worldwide and fewer mechanics available who know how to work on them.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 213 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Trump is even bad at being bribed... 🙄

[–] SoloCritical@lemm.ee 56 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Right? Being gifted a plane is kind of a financial nightmare.

[–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Its like "winning" a boat or car. Great, you have this thing you couldn't afford. Now pay the taxes on it, that you can't afford.

But also, we all know Trump doesn't pay taxes.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Car salesman puts one over on the senile real estate guy.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm curious how they would convert this to be a functional Air Force One plane.

That aircraft is disassembled and reassembled almost entirely on a regular basis to keep it in tip top shape and find sabotage and issues, etc.

It's also equipped specially with military defences, and of course has an onboard suite of equipment and personnel to run a war from the sky, in air refuelling, etc etc.

It's an EXTREMELY specialised version of that very reliable aircraft, is what I'm saying.

How would they bring this new plane up to that standard, and why should they waste tax money on doing so? What's the benefit to the nation?

It all seems ridiculous from the outside looking in. It seems that they're just trying to appease a stupid man who thinks like a dodgy car salesman, and thus is happy to accept big dumb bribes, always getting the worst end of a deal, when the smarter people play him over and over.

...no?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

I mean, you said it. They are trying to appease a stupid man, that's all there is to it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

How would they bring this new plane up to that standard

Spoilers: They absolutely will not be bringing this death trap up to the current plane's standards.

This will either site on a tarmac largely forgotten about for four years, at which point Trump will try and off-load it (if he hasn't completely forgotten he owns it). Or it'll become one of those "never going to be finished" government vanity projects that becomes an excuse to write blank checks to Boeing for billing statements littered with "Headlight Fluid: $4k, Crank Shaft Lengthening Service: $20k" line items.

Absolute best case scenario, someone in the administration actually tries to fly in this thing before the term is complete. And we all get to laugh (or cry, depending on who it lands on) on reading the consequences.

It seems that they’re just trying to appease a stupid man who thinks like a dodgy car salesman, and thus is happy to accept big dumb bribes

That's who Americans believe is best able to run our country. We have been kicking and screaming for the last 40 years to have the US run like a business. And what other business best exemplifies the US than Used Car Dealership?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

What's the benefit to the nation?

Why do you even jokingly use a framework in which you're assuming the current US government does anything "for the nation" instead of themselves?

And also, they're just gonna ward off attacks with, uhm... gilded smoothie machines and massaging chairs.

[–] notastatist@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

I too think the gift is for use after his presidency, I read somewhere.

But in this times you never know.

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Soon Musk will offer Trump a special Cybertruck as a replacement for The Beast. Because he doesn't know what to do with all those swasticars nobody buys anymore.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I wonder at what price point it becomes worth it to buy his swasticars and chop them up for parts. That's assuming that the parts aren't so poorly made that no one would want them. I have some nifty ideas for a battery pack that big, which would probably burn down my house.

You'd be surprised, I converted some rental e-scooter batteries I acquired into a powerbank once. Works fine.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Rig them with remote controls, and then hold a competition. Each contest, different winning conditions and course are used. Month 1, modify the cars with weapons and duke it out. The next, a marathon where the car with the most distance is the victor, the third a destruction derby, and so forth.

It would be way more fun than a Mr. Beast show, I tell ya.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

And every year, sand takes the trophy.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

I see your giant RC car idea and raise you cybertrck demolition derby.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ego@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

I would guess the only decent thing in it is the Tesla motors. Body is riddled with issues. Batteries as well. And all the electronics are proprietary and for the most part not repurposable.

I look forward to a picture sometime in the future of a field of stripped out swastikars waiting to be crushed.

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 89 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's the modem day white elephant. Lol

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I had to do a double take. I thought your comment might have had an issue with keming…

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Wait a minute... What's modem

[–] nibble4bits@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago

As long as it's Hayes compatible.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a submarine to sell this guy

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (6 children)

It'd be funny if the US decides to accept the plane and then Boeing spends the next 4 years retrofitting it with all the military communications and air defense features that the typical Air Force One carries. Then if Trump leaves office, because of military secrets, they spend the next 4 years stripping it back down to civilian level and he dies before ever getting to use it.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As a US taxpayer, I don't find that very amusing. Well, other than the part where Trump dies.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago
[–] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 48 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Trump is like a little baby who wants something he knows he shouldn't have. Waaa. I want palace. If he thought he was leaving it 4 years he wouldn't accept.

Why don't they give it to him after his term is up. See if he goes for that. Promise you he wouldn't go for that deal. :). Wonder why.

At least it exposes his selfishness and greeed which is obscene that people need to have this demonstrated given the man clearly has some serious personality issues.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Tell him that retrofitting it to AirForceOne security standards would "ruin the beautiful golden interior" so it will be better to just wait until he's a private citizen again and won't have to follow those stupid security rules. Meanwhile, as President, he'll have to keep using the "little" presidential aircraft.

He might be tempted into quitting early, or at least not extending his reign. Or he'll insist on using the unsecured plane, and maybe something catastrophic will happen over the Pacific.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

Jesus fucking Christ... Qatar is basically a scumbag real estate agent conning an idiot into buying a condemned shack in a swamp as a "cozy waterfront getaway", but on a colossally stupid level.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (5 children)

My in-laws used to do this.

I love them, but every time they bought something new, they'd give us the old one like it wasn't something they were getting rid of. Easier to give it to us than throw it away.

The last time was a sofa and a love seat. We were stuck with the most uncomfortable furniture I've ever had in my life.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

If you don't like it, why would you take it?

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I've started telling people to not give me their garbage.

I've made a lot of people upset, but also I don't have to dispose of other people's garbage, so as far as I'm concerned that's a win.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago (5 children)

To meet Air Force One standards, the plane would need extensive modifications, including secure communications, nuclear blast shielding and missile defense systems.

Nuclear blast shielding?

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

EMP shielding. Nuclear explosions release an absolutely insane amount of electromagnetic energy and it fries electronics. This is actually where the first EMP was observed - a high altitude nuclear test fried a bunch of electronics. The idea is that it needs to be able to keep flying even if a nuclear blast goes off even quite some distance away. There's obviously no way to actually nuke proof a plane, it would get vaporized or knocked out of the sky if it were close to the epicenter.

[–] Parsizzle@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think they have systems in place to stop EMPs from affecting and potentially taking down AirForce One, and nuclear blasts create EMPs that if left otherwise unshielded would do exactly that.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 7 points 4 days ago

i gonna make an assumption here and say probably EMP resistance?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Darjuz@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the plane will have a failure with Trump on board there will a very bad time for Qatar.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

But a great day for the world.

Really though, what will happen is trump will stick the taxpayer with the insane maintenance costs

[–] disgrunty@slrpnk.net 28 points 4 days ago

A modern-day white elephant! Kind of hilarious that Trump of all people got it.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

🤞 there are mechanical difficulties with it

[–] yuknowhokat@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We need everybody to tell good old Donnie that he was "gifted" a plane that's the equivalent to the rusty old piece of s*** car that's been sitting in the yard for 5 years and hasn't sold.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 days ago

see, thats the difference between a smart leader and a rube.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wow so it's not even a NEW plane but shitty high maintenance sloppy seconds.

The mandarin chief really does have a type...

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] sfled@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I guess he finally realized that a 747 really is bigger and faster that his 757.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

On a scale from the Watergate hotel room to an American embassy in Moscow, how bugged do you think it is?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Damn sure wouldn't waste a new one on him

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›