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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 107 points 1 week ago

I’m so used to bad news I read that as decriminalize

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 91 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Fucking GOOD.

Hopefully we'll also have laws against denying the holocaust israel is inflicting on palestine TOO.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

Whoa. That sort of thinking requires nuance. We don’t do that here.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe 50+ years after every palestinian is murdered.

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[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Good, but add Armenian and Gaza genocide denial to the list too. Or make it genocide denial in general.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

According to the bill, denial of the Holocaust or other serious international crimes, such as those defined under the statutes of the International Criminal Court, would be punishable by a fine or a prison sentence of up to two years.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Armenian and Gaza is fully confirmed, but human rights violations of Xinjiang not so much, it's semantics at that much, like calling the modern Turkish state genocidal for destroying the culture of Kurds in northern Syria, when it was not explicitly to destroy the people itself

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Its forced assimulation just like what the US did to the natives of America. If what the US did was genocide (it is), then what PRC is doing to Xinjiang and Tibet is also genocide.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 13 points 1 week ago

Fair enough, but the term genocide is far too inclusive, I've heard people use cultural genocide instead.

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[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 34 points 1 week ago

I fucking love Finland.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I need people to pay attention to the popularity of denial of the mass killings by Nazis of transgender people. One of the doctors who performed the first vaginoplasty, on Dora Richter, did also go on to participate in brutal abuses in a concentration camp. Like a dung beetle, a group is rolling around this tiny kernel of truth, coalescing in a ball of shit that ends up like this.

There’s something so vile about this. It has to be deliberate.

DuckDuckGo and Google have always had at least one denialist result in every single Google search I have made about the Holocaust. Back in 2010 - in high school, I remember reading half of a book online which seemed to be the memoirs of an American World War 2 soldier, than abruptly realizing that he was starting to say some really strange things. Never anything quite wrong, but off. I did a little googling, a bit more research, and then started running into names like David Irving.

It’s just such a damn difficult problem to fix. They are insidious. Deniers know that the Holocaust happened. They know that trans people were brutalized and massacred by the Nazis, whether you feel like the “purpose” of the mass killings makes it a genocide or not.

They don’t care. They want stupid people to believe it, because then you can get the stupid people to look the other way. To laugh at people pointing out the patterns.

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[–] TTom0602@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

JD Vance will be pissed.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago (32 children)
[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

According to the bill, denial of the Holocaust or other serious international crimes, such as those defined under the statutes of the International Criminal Court, would be punishable by a fine or a prison sentence of up to two years.

https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/26868-finland-moves-to-ban-holocaust-denial-under-new-criminal-law.html

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It should be illegal everywhere. Germany knows how to deal with Nazis (well, unless they're part of a party)

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Germany considers criticising Israel antisemitism.

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[–] courval@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good, now criminalise Genocide denial.

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[–] clot27@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Common nordic W

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

you will apply this law with the same rigour to every genocide right? right?

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago

Based! Fuck Nazis

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