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[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 316 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (30 children)

Yeah some serious boomer logic going on here.

"We thought that if we kept the foundation and the outer walls of the house and we just took the roof off, it was our understanding that we were going to preserve our Save Our Homes and our homestead,” says Debbie."

"the renovations—removing the roof, adding a second floor —ultimately triggered a full reassessment of the home’s value. Under Florida law, once a property is deemed substantially improved, it can be treated as new construction, removing the protections that had capped the home’s assessed value for years."

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 282 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

Boomer logic ..... "I want all the benefits, entitlements and supports of society and none of the responsibilities."

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 74 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Can you imagine the pain of having to pay fairly for what you own... Disgusting.

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[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They tried to apply the building code laws. In Florida, if you do a renovation and keep the foundation and one wall, you can build to the code at the time of construction. These "protections" never applied to assessment and tax.

Many houses in that exact area have been bought for cheap and flipped using this work around. They end up with a modern house but can avoid having to spend extra for upgraded storm mitigation, plumbing, and electric.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 182 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They basically rebuilt their home and are sad it's appraised at market value.

That's at least what I got from it.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 86 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, not a lot of sympathy from me.

4.4 mil, wow.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If it’s that big of a problem for their life, why not just sell the house and be multi-millionaires? It’s a non-story. Maybe they should’ve taken that into consideration.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

So, the house is now valued at 6x the original value? If they sold it at only 4-5x it would still be a huge win.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Their taxes were grandfathered in because they bought the property at a much lower value, the house was already worth a lot more than they paid for it.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 99 points 3 weeks ago

Rich boomers who haven't worked in 30 years want to keep property values high without paying the property tax to go with it

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hahahahahahaha

Oh no, their taxes went up with the value of their property

🎻

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 77 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm not entirely unsympathetic since property values have skyrocketed ridiculously mostly due to the super rich and hedge funds buying up housing like it's candy.

However, these people got an assessment for doing some renovations without replacing the walls or a major overhaul of the property, then promptly added a whole second floor to the building when they said they were just replacing the roof. They gambled that the assessors wouldn't take note and lost.

[–] lightsblinken@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

yeah, and the guy was professionally working in the real estate space... feels like they are in the "find out" stage.

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[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 75 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How were they supposed to know real estate law being… checks notes…

a real estate attorney?

[–] Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

I was going to ask why they didn't consult a real estate attorney. Apparently they didn't have a good one...

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Working for. That doesn't mean paralegal. Reception, copy, courier, title clerk, mail room, etc

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That’s a fair point. But at the very least it can be said she should have had the resources not to be surprised by this.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 61 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

The homeowners have two options, and both options suck.

  • sell
  • don't sell

Both alternatives carry costs. But they own a home worth 4.4mil and have to pay 2% of that each year. That's pretty low.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 28 points 3 weeks ago

Renters have two options:

  • get fucked
  • move (and get fucked)

At least if the homeowner sells they get the windfall.

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[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Debbie, who had worked for a real estate attorney for nearly 25 years

Lol, a real estate attorney didn't see this coming? I feel sorry for any clients of hers.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

She worked FOR a real estate attorney. And apparently learned nothing.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 53 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Having your home valued at $4,400,000 is what most of us would call a nice problem to have.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Actually it's a pretty bad problem to have. If you bought an affordable house at the time but gentrification comes for your area you suddenly can't afford to live in the house you bought and despite whatever roots you've put down, now you have to try to migrate somewhere else.

Note that even if your tax assessment says you can get a few million out of your house, it's likely not that easy, it can take a long time to find a buyer in the best of times, I imagine especially if you are seeking a buyer willing to pay millions...

It's not as bad as renting in the same scenario, but it's not great to suddenly have rich person cost of ownership come at you when you bought into a non rich person level house

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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 weeks ago

basically what happens when you create and support a housing system whose goal is to make profit. doesnt matter if you yourself plan on living in it, people voted for the system that approved the nonsense of longterm profiteering of a basic need.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

You’d think a real estate attorney would know better.

Anyway, property –with the improvements they made, has appreciated over $163,000 on average every year since they bought it. Ya, $75k more than they planned on sucks, but they can take it from the value of the house no?

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[–] Ton@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's always funny when looking at the tax-system in the US from an EU perspective. Americans looking at any receipt they get in an EU country and immediately pointing out the huge VAT tariff.

Then one only needs to point to the property tax in the US.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Sales taxes are regressive. People who spend more money on services and less on goods are typically wealthier. Sales taxes hit the poor the hardest. Whereas the property tax on a multi unit building is typically a better rate for each family than a single family home.

If you read the article these people tried to abuse a loophole that had kept their propery taxes capped for years and they failed miserably. They tried to keep just enough of the home to avoid the value of the home being reassessed for taxes. But they added an entire second story and that triggered the reassessment. Essentially they thought they could cheat and build more home than they could afford to pay for.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

So you were house rich but they never reassessed meaning last year you paid 15k on a 3.9m home nicw

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck off and sell the home. Why is this a sob story.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Sure must be nice having a house to remodel.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 16 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Yearly property taxes never made sense to me. So you supposedly bought and own something, except if you don't pay the government then they can just take it away.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago (27 children)

Taxes are the price of civilization. You pay taxes on your land, because if you don't, a gang of armed thugs will come and steal it from you and bury you under it.

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[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The alternative is banks hoarding real state without any need to rent it out or sell it soon. They can just wait until prices get higher.

That's why in most countries people pay way less property taxes in the house they live in.

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