this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2025
1807 points (98.3% liked)
People Twitter
7411 readers
1808 users here now
People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
RULES:
- Mark NSFW content.
- No doxxing people.
- Must be a pic of the tweet or similar. No direct links to the tweet.
- No bullying or international politcs
- Be excellent to each other.
- Provide an archived link to the tweet (or similar) being shown if it's a major figure or a politician.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
The President deploying Marines inside the U.S. without invoking the Insurrection Act, declaring an emergency, or getting local/state approval — especially just to respond to peaceful protests — is unlawful on multiple levels:
- Violates DoD Directive 3025.18 – Active-duty military (including Marines) can’t engage in domestic law enforcement unless explicitly authorized.
- Violates the First Amendment – Peaceful protest is protected. Military suppression = unconstitutional. (NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., 458 U.S. 886).
- Violates the Fourth Amendment – Military detentions/searches are illegal without cause. (Indianapolis v. Edmond, 531 U.S. 32).
- Ignores Posse Comitatus limits – PCA (18 U.S.C. § 1385) applies to Army/Air Force, but DoD extends it to all branches.
- Unlawful military orders – Troops must disobey unconstitutional orders (UCMJ Art. 92; U.S. v. Calley, 48 C.M.R. 19).
- Impeachable abuse of power – Violates Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution.
This isn’t just controversial — it’s flat-out illegal.
EDIT: Formatting EDIT: Better Citations: (DoDI 3025.21, Enclosure 3, Section 3)
https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/302521p.pdf
- EXCEPTIONS BASED ON MILITARY SERVICE. By policy, Posse Comitatus Act restrictions (as well as other restrictions in this Instruction) are applicable to the Department of the Navy (including the Marine Corps) with such exceptions as the Secretary of Defense may authorize in advance on a case-by-case basis.
LISTED EXCEPTIONS
a. Such exceptions shall include requests from the AG for assistance pursuant to section
873(b) of Reference (al).
b. Requests for approval of other exceptions should be made by a senior official of the
civilian law enforcement agency concerned, who verifies that:
(1) The size or scope of the suspected criminal activity poses a serious threat to the
interests of the United States and enforcement of a law within the jurisdiction of the civilian
agency would be seriously impaired if the assistance were not provided because civilian assets
are not available to perform the mission; or
(2) Civilian law enforcement assets are not available to perform the mission, and
temporary assistance is required on an emergency basis to prevent loss of life or wanton
destruction of property.
4. MILITARY READINESS. Assistance may not be provided if such assistance could
adversely affect military preparedness. Implementing documents issued by the Heads of the
DoD Components shall ensure that approval for the disposition of equipment is vested in
officials who can assess the effect of such disposition on military preparedness.
5. APPROVAL AUTHORITY. Requests by civilian law enforcement officials for use of DoD
personnel to provide assistance to civilian law enforcement agencies shall be forwarded to the
appropriate approval authority.
a. The Secretary of Defense is the approval authority for requests for direct assistance in
support of civilian law enforcement agencies, including those responding with assets with the
potential for lethality, except for the use of emergency authority as provided in subparagraph
1.b.(3) of this enclosure and in Reference (c), and except as otherwise provided below.
b. Requests that involve Defense Intelligence and Counterintelligence entities are subject to
approval by the Secretary of Defense and the guidance in DoDD 5240.01(Reference (ar)) and
Reference (j).
24
Change 1, 02/08/2019 ENCLOSURE 3
DoDI 3025.21, February 27, 2013
c. The Secretaries of the Military Departments and the Directors of the Defense Agencies
may, in coordination with the ASD(HD&GS), approve the use of DoD personnel:
(1) To provide training or expert advice in accordance with paragraphs 1.e. and 1.f. of
this enclosure.
(2) For equipment maintenance in accordance with paragraph 1.d. of this enclosure.
(3) To monitor and communicate the movement of air and sea traffic in accordance with
subparagraphs 1.d.(5)(b) 1 and 4 of this enclosure.
d. All other requests, including those in which subordinate authorities recommend
disapproval, shall be submitted promptly to the ASD(HD&GS) for consideration by the
Secretary of Defense, as appropriate.
e. The views of the CJCS shall be obtained on all requests that are considered by the
Secretary of Defense or the ASD(HD&GS), that otherwise involve personnel assigned to a
unified or specified command, or that may affect military preparedness.
f. All requests that are to be considered by the Secretary of Defense or the ASD(HD&GS)
that may involve the use of Reserve Component personnel or equipment shall be coordinated
with the ASD(M&RA). All requests that are to be considered by the Secretary of Defense or the
ASD(HD&GS) that may involve the use of NG personnel also shall be coordinated with the
Chief, NGB. All requests that are to be considered by the Secretary of Defense or the
ASD(HD&GS) that may involve the use of NG equipment also shall be coordinated with the
Secretary of the Military Department concerned and the Chief, NGB.
Only illegal if someone enforces the law, and I have a sneaking suspicion the chances of that are low
Donny can’t possibly wriggle his way out of this one!
I said that about the stolen top secret documents because of all the obvious treason and the even more obvious° sending/selling of said documents. Yet the american public decided it was a good idea to vote him in once again so he could pardon himself.
Nothing will happen to him. I see no one over there with the backbone to do anything to bring him to justice. The best you can hope for is death or debilitating stroke.
The bad news is even if that happens today then Fatboy Tangerine has shown just how easy it is to be a dictator. The next guy will be more organised.
(°Why obvious? There was a fax machine right there. A fax machine in a toilet. The fact that there was old tech like a fax machine shows what it was being used for, but to move one to a fucking toilet full of the documents is plain damning. Anyone who believes differently is either an idiot, or corrupt. Or both.
End of, full stop, no further explanation is needed.)
load more comments
(3 replies)
You're not wrong, but it's important to call it out. And to CONSTANTLY call out the message to our troops that it is incumbent upon them to refuse to follow illegal orders.
load more comments
(11 replies)
Watch the news try to play it like it's the Marines not the army so Kamala lied.
I remember after her DNC speech, NPR put out an article listing all the misleading things in her speech and #1 was that she said Trump will jail journalists, and the article linked to a tweet of Trump saying "dishonest" journalists should be jailed but she's still being misleading because it wasn't actually a part of his official campaign platform.
No similar article existed for his RNC speech. Having preferred NPR for years, that moment made me realize just how hard the media failed the country.
I was a supporter of my local NPR station for decades. It's crazy how far right the coverage has gone. Slowly over the years, then really hard in recent months. It's like they're desperately trying to show that they aren't left leaning, by going way the other way. I've heard long interviews with wackos from things like The Heritage Foundation all the time, with little to no pushback on the BS. I watched a magat congressman interviewed on PBS the other night with zero pushback to his bullshit magat talking points. The list goes on. I stopped watching/listening to them, but I've been kind of at a loss as to where to check up on news. AP or Reuters is about it, I guess.
I mean is anyone surprised? The media's capitulation and normalization of a felon rapist traitor and his enablers is why we are where we are. Because drama makes them more money and this nation lacks the rules necessary to prevent the media from lying to Americans.
I mean is anyone surprised?
I am genuinely surprised that we made it four years under his first term without getting this far in, but we're speed running to military dictatorship inside six months.
If you actually read the article it is absolutely swimming in reactionary revanchism. There's everything from the author defending Trump's association with the Charlottesville rioters to whining about MSNBC sound-bites to referring to immigration during the Biden Presidency as a "Border Invasion".
This isn't even the boilerplate Politico "Lying when their lips are moving" false-equivalency. This is Derek Hunter, a talk radio frothing fascist and senior columnist for Townhall.com, doing exactly what his corporate handlers pay him to do.
load more comments
(5 replies)
And then Harris completely disappeared as soon as the election was over, failing to challenge his extremely questionable victory in any meaningful way
If she had challenged it, she probably wouldn't have won the challenge, AND she would have fueled a whole smattering of "SEE, BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME" bs
load more comments
(3 replies)
load more comments
(16 replies)
I can almost the trolls saying 'well Ackshually he sent the marines, not the army! Pwned lozur!'
Hillary was right. Harris was right. Misogyny ignored them.
Americans didn't vote for Hillary or Harris because apparently they wanted a whiny bitch to be president instead.
Lets not pretend the presidential election is all about gender and nothing else. Thats just not true.
load more comments
(35 replies)
load more comments
(11 replies)
Um ackchyually it's the Marines and National Guard.
It was an opinion piece by a guest columnist.
Who is a piece of shit, but regardless.
https://books.google.com/books/about/Outrage_Inc.html
he is derekahunter on siteformerlyknownasbirdsite
It was an opinion piece by a guest columnist.
That an editor then chose to publish. What's your point?
load more comments
(3 replies)
This reminds me of another woman presidential candidate who was also right about Trump. I'm starting to see a pattern.
load more comments
(2 replies)
I understand that the hill published this, but it was an opinion article. I get that some people value that, but they are almost never opinions of people that should have an opinion on the matter. Either way, I don't consider opinion articles to be something that you can nail an organization to the cross over. Just sharing a perspective is all.
There have to be consequences for platforming fascists. This whole “civility and decorum” crap has got to stop, we are in a fascist coup and cannot afford to tolerate any enemy activity.
load more comments
(4 replies)
load more comments
(15 replies)
If only the dems had had 4 years to do something...
Any attempt by the Democrats to forestall this would have allowed Trump to paint them as anti-American traitors. So the Democrats did nothing and Trump painted them as anti-American traitors.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(2 replies)
Kamala DID lie. They didn't send the Army. They sent the Marines.
Stupid smart Kamala.
They can still argue that their definition of "you" is exclusive to a certain group of people
load more comments
(2 replies)