Cool, I'm glad to see UI that makes tech look fun and hopeful again instead of barebones corporate-flat, spartan rectangles.
"Oo look, they come in muted pastels and you can round the corners!"
Pfftftfttft...
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And it stills looks like shit. Idk, as much as I dislike Windows Vista asthetics, Apple managed to make them look good by comparison.
From day one of Windows 11, I wrote that Windows 11 felt like an unnecessary replacement for Windows 10. I’ve since changed my mind about that, in part because Microsoft has pivoted toward features like Windows Spotlight and adding AI capabilities like Copilot. MacOS Tahoe looks and feels somewhat like Windows Vista’s Aero Glass design language, but you can’t hold that against them—some of Microsoft’s early Windows efforts were fondly remembered for their UI.
Oh so he doesn't know what he is talking about. How has 11 gotten better with 'AI' or anything else.
Copilot is literally the last nail in the coffin for me to finally switch. 365 has been bad for some time now, with copilot it's basically unusable
It's got what shareholders crave
From day 1 I’ve been critical of Windows 11, but since then I’ve been told our sponsors don’t like that, so here’s why I’m now all in on 11.
blood of slave labour children from the rare earth metal mines?
Also, they don’t seem to remember that Mac OS X 10.2 used Aqua and glassmorphism in 2002 to match their iMac’ brand new translucent style 5 years before Windows Vista was released (2007).
Also, everyone hated the UI in Vista at the time.
I didn't mind it at all, but I had decent hardware, which apparently made all of the difference.
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Who's "he", and where did that quote come from? I only see an image, did I miss an article cross-posted or something?
EDIT: Apparently, it's from PCWorld.
Source: him
"That's what"
She
Well, hopefully their opinion changed from "unnecessary replacement" to "replacement with degraded performance and unnecessary malware."
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We've seen all the window border/ui design cycles by now. You can have:
- Glassy
- Metallic
- Bubbly
- Flat
- Chiseled stone
They will just rotate every 7 years or so from here on out.
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Ohhhhhhhhhh I get it! They called it Vista like a view, like something you would see out of a window (I am not very smart)
And it's called Windows 11 to remind us of 9/11, because both are fucking tragedies.
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I’ve only just now made the connection because of your post.
Because people don’t seem to remember that Mac OS X 10.2 used Aqua and glassmorphism in 2002 to match their iMac’ brand new translucent style 5 years before Windows Vista was released (2007).
People spreading these memes most likely weren’t born before either release 😀
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I've run into gen-z people talking very nostalgically about 2000s UI design trends. They've even retroactively dubbed the era as 'futiger aero'.
I'm a bit older and don't as fondly remember that era; I remember a lot of excesses like nonsensical reflections and calendar apps with leather textures. The 2013 turn to "flat" design felt quite fresh to me, and I haven't really gotten tired of it yet.
The 2013 turn to "flat" design felt quite fresh to me, and I haven't really gotten tired of it yet.
Man, I have. I liked it at first, but I’m so ready.
The processing power wasn’t there yet in 2007 for the level of refraction and skeuomorphism that makes this look work on a system-wide level. In Vista and 7 Aero was just fancy transparency with some blurring and flares. But this design language Apple is showing off is beautiful. I hope others copy it (which will probably happen, since everything in tech is everyone copying everyone else).
(That said, I would probably also take a return to the 9x/NT4/Windows 2000 2.5D grey UI over the flat stuff at this point, so maybe I’m not a good source of opinion. 😅)
(which will probably happen, since everything in tech is everyone copying ~~everyone else~~ Apple no matter how good or bad their ideas are at the time.)
FTFY although I wish it wasn't so. ._. Lol
If they are really nostalgic for that, tell them to use react os.
I miss the glass and translucent looks, the flat boring look of today is very bleak and dystopian looking imo. Don’t miss vista though, that was what started my move to Linux (with Compiz fusion and as many of the ridiculous effects as my poor $300 laptop could handle).
I feel the same way! I think a lot of hate for Vista was just instability and high system usage.
I feel like things have definitely come a long way, where my KDE machines can have pretty glassy UI without crunching the whole system.
I also really liked ME before XP, where there was a heavy emphasis on personalizing and theming.
flat boring look of today is very bleak and dystopian looking imo.
100%. It feels very corporate and like any artistic touch was forcibly extracted from it because trends say that aesthetic hurts readability or something. Blegh.
It's like the UI equivalent to that "Memphis techbro" art style with the freakish flat purple people with wonky arms and tiny heads.
I mean, I'm not entirely opposed to some translucency and gloss if it doesn't get in the way of legibility. For me early Mac OS X 'Aqua' circa 2003 is the peak of that aesthetic.
Any UI theme should also be applied consistently. What I hated about Vista is the Aero theme was only surface deep. You were always only a few clicks away from some program that look liked it hadn't been updated since Windows 95.
You were always only a few clicks away from some program that look liked it hadn't been updated since Windows 95.
That remains true for 10 and 11 too. For a quick trip back to 1995, just do something that you probably haven't done this millennium, change your mouse pointer. Instant nostalgia. Device manager in general hasn't changed much either.
I wouldn't even count that against them, working functionality shouldn't be changed without good reason, except that it exposes how much windows is a patch job on a fundamentally flawed design. If it were a boat or car, it would be more Bondo than metal at this point. Why are these dialogs so stuck in the past? Shouldn't it be a simple matter to have them use the latest design elements to at least look consistent, even if the functionality hasn't changed a bit.
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I got tired of it in 2013. While it does work in some places (Android does it reasonably well), I haven't yet seen a good flat design on the desktop.
Windows 8 and 10 looked garish and hard to read, especially since everything is a rectangle with a one-pixel outline. Is it a button? Is it a text field? Maybe a thick progress bar? Who knows, they all look extremely similar.
While Apple did overdo it in the later big-cat OS X releases, I'll take a felt-textured widget panel and a calendar bound in leather over an endless sea of hairline rectangles.
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Necessary "BTW, I'm using arch linux" comment coming through!
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