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For years, there has been a lot of backlash against the "objectification of women", which i can totally understand because it's a "dehumanizing" term that looks at people like objects, not as actual human beings.

But the same is happening with the concept of "workers": If people are referred to as "workers", that means that they are being reduced to their economic function; to their ability to produce.

That is a dehumanizing term. The view should be that people are humans first, and workers second. People deserve rights, and a good life, not because they're workers, but because they're humans. That is how people should be looked at.

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 3 points 5 hours ago

It's a term used to describe a group of people. This is just making up stuff to get offended by.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

would you rather be called servants, slaves, serfs.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago

When I am at work, I am a worker. This reeks of “whataboutism”

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

I gave you an upvote.

I could see a case for using "working person" instead of "worker." It's definitely not the sort of thing that's agreed to be exploitative language (yet?) though.

What I do for sure bristle at a lot more is referring to people as "resources." Like, when planning a project, discussing how many "resources" can be "put on the project". Definitely feels dehumanizing.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

"Workers" is not dehumanizing. But if they were called "tools" then it would be. Worker generally implies human. Just like dancer. Or singer. Or artist. Or any other human activity title.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago

A humans' union?

We cannot fight alienation by linguistic means alone.

"Dock workers", "construction worker" are relevant terms and replacing the terms with imprecise labels like "construction human" has the risk of even further reduction, because now not only is people's work activity tied to their label, but their humanity.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that women are still being objectified and that's bad. I don't agree with workers being dehumanized by being referred to as such. "Workers of the world, unite!" was a big rallying cry. For some people, it's an identity-establishing part of life that they're using manual labor and not fart into a desk chair all day. They take pride in being working class.

If by referring to a group of working folks is dehumanizing then we cannot talk about people like housekeepers, street sweepers, nurses, or engineers either. They're people too. And I don't see "people with job X" catching on in the language either.

[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago

Also, even if "people with job X" caught on, that wouldn't actually achieve anything. The impression or image in your head that you get when you hear "people who work in a factory" vs. "factory workers" is the same, even if the wording deliberately makes reference to people.

I appreciate what the intention is behind it, just like with "people with disabilities" vs. "disabled people", but it doesn't address the societal issues that result in the actual discrimination/problematic views.

This is more of a theoretical argument, but from a linguistic perspective there's a common misconception that language shapes our perception of reality, when in fact it's the other way round. If you talk about subject X which is looked down on for whatever reason, the commonly used word for it can take on a derogatory tone, which leads to well-meaning people using a more positive word. This is commonly seen with words for women in patriarchal societies, and it leads to a cycle of neutral words becoming derogatory and polite words becoming the new standard, until that word becomes derogatory and has to be replaced in turn. None of this is to say we shouldn't be careful with the language we use, and in fact it's a good way of signalling respect, but I just want to highlight that adopting new terminology is itself won't achieve much.

[–] cattywampas@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What do you suggest instead?

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world -3 points 13 hours ago

Probably "unemployed and collecting" if I had to guess

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Which is technically correct but falls way short of addressing the problem.

As all identity politics, it looks at individual discrimination instead of the broader system which fetishizes exploitation of everyone and everything.

Capitalism has to go. Socialism is the answer.

[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 0 points 13 hours ago

For years, there has been a lot of backlash against the “objectification of women”, which i can totally understand because it’s a “dehumanizing” term that looks at people like objects, not as actual human beings.

But the same is happening with the concept of “nazis”: If people are referred to as “nazis”, that means that they are being reduced to their political function; to their ability to hate.

That is a dehumanizing term. The view should be that people are humans first, and nazis second. People deserve rights, and a good life, not because they’re nazis, but because they’re humans. That is how people should be looked at.

.I'll see myself out... Have a nice day. :P