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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 174 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump wants the expanded powers of POTUS that comes with being a wartime president, as well as a wartime budget, but he needs Congress to declare war…so what does he do?

He pulls out of an agreement that restricted Iran from enriching uranium, then threatens to attack them for enriching uranium. Unexpectedly, Iran takes the high road and goes to the UN over the threats. Since Iran won’t attack, Trump gets Israel to attack Iran. Now, Trump is allowed to attack Iran under the false pretense of protecting an ally, which circumvents congressional approval. He posts a message claiming peace, knowing full well that Iran will retaliate, and Congress will subsequently declare war.

Trump gets everything he wants- expanded powers, and a big budget to hide his reckless overspending, while calling it the defense of an allied nation.

[–] Gronk@aussie.zone 87 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The only thing I have a gripe with about this, Trump doesn't have the mental faculties to plan something like this, so who's really pulling the strings here?

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago

The same think tank that made the project 2025 blueprint he's following.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The military industrial complex, JD Vance is Peter Thiel's pet.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unlikely, since it doesn't involve harassing and torturing immigrants.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True true.

But you forgot that it does involve bombing Muslims.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

True true.

But you forgot that it does involve bombing ~~Muslims~~ brown people.

No need to make it as complicated as religion

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago

Peter Thiel and friends. The guys pulling Vance's strings waiting.

[–] thagoat 14 points 2 days ago

The Netanyahu ass kissing cabal. So most republicans in politics.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Stephen Miller and the other inhuman cancers on his cabinet

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Key point. Yes, he's the focus right now, but there's people in the background influencing him as well as people just following orders from him. Lots of guilty people, not just one.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Congress "declaring war" is a relic of the past. Every conflict since WWII has been unilaterally decided by the executive.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

He needs them to declare war to give him the fat budget and more executive power. I’m sure the Republican-controlled majority won’t have a problem with it. They’ve been foaming at the mouth for a hot war with Iran since the 80s.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The budget is at wartime levels already though.

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[–] thagoat 83 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Fuck. This. Man. Impeach him. Jail him. Deport him. I don't care just fucking get him out of politics.

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[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iran says that they will not stop with their efforts. Trump just said that if it doesn’t stop, he will continue with his campaign. Unless one side relents, this will lead to war. Or, as the media will put it “precision strikes against a foreign adversary” Fuck the USA, may it reap what it sows.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

We're already at war.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The analysis before the attack was that the bunker-busters probably wouldn't make it all the way through the mountainside, so Iran could dig their way out and get everything back on line in a few months.

Did this change, or is this just another case of Trump giving the illusion of having done something, when it's all glitzy window-dressing and bullshit?

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I thought talk of nukes was to make invasion seem like a good and sane alternative. That, or it was news corporations gleefully picking up some nonsense and shouting it from the rooftops hoping for some clicks.

[–] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That’ll take the spines of 6 Republicans in the House and 20 Republicans in the Senate. Actually, 21 Republican Senators. Fetterman will probably vote against removal.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

A real "who must go" situation.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Looking at the photos, there's barely any difference. If the bombs can go deep enough to damage the facility, shouldn't we see exposed sections?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

errrr, well let us see, I am skeptical these strikes were decisive, they might just make the US look worse

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What gives you the impression Trump cares about how the US looks to the international community?

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[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 days ago

Wouldn't be the first time, if true.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So iran is no longer a threat and we can drop sanctions now?

And Israel can stop its genocide against the Palestinians

[–] dinren@discuss.online 4 points 2 days ago

Any of these US military people involved with bombing Iran need to be imprisoned.

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