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[Update: Failed again] Update to 0.18.1-rc.1 tried and rolled back (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by ruud@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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We've upgraded lemmy.world to 0.18.1-rc.1 and rolled back that upgrade because of issues.

(If you had posted anything in those 10 minutes between upgrade and rollback, that post is gone. Sorry!)

The main issue we saw is that users can't login anymore. Existing sessions still worked, but new logins failed (from macos, ios and android. From linux and windows it worked)

Also new account creation didn't work.

I'll create an issue for the devs and retry once it's fixed.

Edit Contacted the devs, they tell me to try again with lemmy-ui at version 0.18.0. Will try again, brace for some downtime!

Edit 2 So we upgraded again, and it seemed to work nicely! But then it slowed down so much it was unuseable. There were many locks in the database. People reported many JSON errors. Sorry, we won't be on 0.18.1 any time soon I'm afraid..

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[–] MrPear@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you for the transparancy!

[–] GatoB@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I love post like this, another reason of why this instance is so good

[–] morelikepinniped@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

Thanks for all your hard work @ruud@lemmy.world. It's not easy!

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Both Dessalines and Nutomic have been working their butts off to get 0.18.x ready for the Reddit API changes. Huge hopes they can pull through!

Dessalines:

Nutomic:

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah they've been hard at work all month. But it's also okay if things aren't ready in time. Most of the people who matter are already here.

Maybe we will blow up soon, maybe later, but the quality of content here is sufficient to drive growth regardless of whether or not we get the prophesized huge migrations from reddit

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[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is that users can’t login anymore

Ouch, that's bad :(

Thank you for your work, as always :)

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[–] Machefi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Just curious, why are we updating now instead of waiting for the proper 0.18.1 release?

[–] ruud@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Because of a few things, really anoying bugs and the Jerboa app not working properly with older versions

[–] axzxc1236@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (25 children)

Reasons I can think of:

The official Android client for lemmy, Jerboa, only supports 0.18 and later, unless users download older version from github and sideload manually.
Sorting is broken pre 0.18, new posts keeps flowing in.
Performance improvement by removing web socket from lemmy. (which fixes 2, which is why 1. happens)

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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Federation is completely borked with .18 servers. Its very difficult for us to interact with https://lemmy.ca in any way: subscribing, upvoting, comments, posting... its all bugged.

Its maybe not that big a deal because Lemmy.world "has the most users", so in some regards its https://lemmy.ca's loss but... we need to restore reliable federation... especially before the July 1st rush IMO.

The .17 to .18 upgrade is basically a soft-defederation event, because of whatever this bug is between the two versions.

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[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I suspect there will be a large influx of new users in two days, and that having Jerboa not working on .world might cause a few issues

[–] antik@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

For example the frontpage is no longer being constantly filled with random posts when you set the filter to "active" or "top day".

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[–] Jerti@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

UI: 0.18.0 BE: 0.18.1-rc.1 👍

seems to be working for me, I was already logged on

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Oh. Good luck with the next try!

[–] rrobin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As any engineer who does ops can tell you - you did the right thing - the solution is always to roll back, never force a roll forward, ever.

We should totally do pre and post update parties though. Even if the update fails we can have an excuse for drinks and a fun thread.

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[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Suddenly my Jerboa won't change from local and I can't change the sort. Not sure if this is related, but it was working fine yesterday after I updated the app. But no longer this morning.

[–] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

What you're describing is an issue introduced with Jerboa 0.0.36-alpha and has been fixed in today released 0.0.37-alpha.

[–] snargledorf@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

@ruud@lemmy.world just wondering if you have considered setting up a second, beta, instance of lemmy.world open to the public?

With all the performance issues with 0.18.1, it's highlighted that there needs to be a way to stress test these updates before applying them to the main instance.

[–] ruud@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Yes, considering that. But we'll need people to use that when we will do testing...

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Linux/Firefox After upgrade many things didn't work, but they continued not to work after rollback.

Turns out I needed to clear the cache, then everything worked fine again.

[–] Sterben@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am grad I didn't write my last post during the upgrade process.

Maybe next time, give a warning, or maintenance notice.

Thanks for trying though.

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[–] Nintendo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

appreciate the transparency. how are things looking in the back in lemmy.world (server wise)? will we get to a point where it wont require complete rollbacks on the state when a botched update gets rolled out?

[–] DRx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Damn, Im glad you tried, and thanks for the update! I just really want the front page fixed without changing to page 0 lol. That and the 3/6/12 hour filter option.

Keep us updated. Im bouncing back and forth between LW, KBIN, and .ml for now though

any recommendations on other instances I should try outside the lemmy-verse and kbin-verse?

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

[–] Spitz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Jerboa crashes constantly for me now, doesn't even let me view anything. JSYK!

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[–] SeaJaye@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm so new, I'm a baby, I have no idea what I'm doing. I did just create my account, I tried using the app but it wouldn't let me. Saying server version too low. I'm sorry for my ignorance, but is this what that means? And this means we can't use the app yet right?

Also, thank you for all of this. I will be here for it all, I'm staying forever! I already love this so much more than anything else 🥰

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[–] necropola@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Eveyrthing (UI) is extremely slow now. Not an improvement at all.

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[–] Anarch157a@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Seems 0.18 is up... and...

OH NO ! The interface changed ! Bring it back ! Bring it back... /s

Just kidding... It's looking good, so it's time to explore a little and find all the new stuff.

Nice work @Rudd, thanks for all the hard work.

[–] rr7@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

My current session works now with 0.18.0 + 0.18.1.rc1

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the info. You're doing a great job!

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am glad y'all rolled back. I had just enabled 2FA and could not login to my account. Rolling back removed 2FA so I was able to log back in. Thanks.

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[–] Machefi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

PSA: If you've been using lemmy.world during the upgrades and rollbacks your browser might've cashed some stuff that quickly got out of date. If you have problems (especially JSON errors), try doing a hard refresh (usually Ctrl + F5) on the site. It might log you out.

[–] necrxfagivs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Great! I'm getting a bug, when I upvote a comment or post, the "loading animation" takes forever to complete. If I refresh the upvote is there. It reminds me to the bug we had with comments and new posts.

Edit: Is the same for comments.

[–] xtract@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Working fine from Lift-off!

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Dude I posted the funniest comment in those 10 minutes but you all must have missed it. Oh well 😅

[–] BlueN1te@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

pretty brutal bug ngl. was hoping I'd be using jerboa again soon

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[–] flubba86@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I had a weird issue after it upgraded. My browser (Firefox on Android) showed the Lemmy UI but showed no posts. I checked my profile to see if I was logged in, and it showed I was logged in as someone else! I cleared my cache and refreshed, it showed I wasn't logged in. After I logged in it was fine, and showed my expected posts and my actual profile. In Liftoff app my account worked fine the whole time, didn't need to log in again.

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