Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private : technology

[-] Overzeetop@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

I’ll say it every time: it’s their platform, their servers, their choice. However, we owe them nothing. If they want to go it alone, we need to let them. Let them hire paid moderators and we should delete our content so they have to create their own.

We built the communities there, we can do it again elsewhere. We have the expertise and the desire.

[-] static@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Reddit chose to be non profitable in order to kill off all internet forums.

It's reddit that's changing the terms, not mods acting up.

[-] Erk@cdda.social 12 points 1 year ago

It kinda reminds me of what happened to rural buses in Canada. We had small bus companies going all over the place. Greyhound bought them all out and ran the whole thing as a monopoly for a few years.

Then they decided it was too much trouble and shut the operations down.

For the last twenty years there are no rural buses at all. If you want to get from point a to b outside of town, it's flight or drive.

[-] lightninhopkins@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like everything else. Big money buys out competition and then kills off anything that is not profitable enough. Parasitic private equity take all the money.

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[-] thisjustin@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

That's incredibly sad, and as the other commenter suggested, all too common with big daddy capitalism. I can't describe how angry it makes me, and how powerless those situations make me feel at times. I'm so happy, and proud, when I see communities truly fight back - and I can fight along side then. So often we go out with a wimpe, I want to fight for the things important to me!

[-] user36481@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There are reports they are undeleting content. The only option is to stop participating.

[-] tinwhiskers@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I've just been sorting my comments by highest score and replacing a dozen or so each day with something like "-> fediverse". So far none have been restored. Most of the lower scored comments don't have value to anyone anyway so I'm just ordering by most impact until I get bored.

Not participating isn't the only choice.

On days I'm feeling particularly petty I go into discussions and vote down the good comments and vote up the bad ones just to make the signal to noise ratio worse. Yes, I'm that petty.

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe you don't mind doing it manually, but you can automate it too (at least until the api goes down)

https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

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[+] man_in_space@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

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[-] Godofthemachine@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Some in the verge are 3rd party app users. They get the betrayal reddit users feel from the way the API change was handled.

[-] sculd@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Don't understand why other tech sites didn't follow this story as closely as The Verge did. They are witnessing the downturn of one of the largest websites in the world.

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[-] Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz 14 points 1 year ago

You MUST re-open the community you helped build over the years for free so that we can earn BIG monies on teh ads!! Make us monies for FREE slave!! We pay you NUTHIN! You work hard for USSSS!!!! Work when WE tell you too!!!!!! foaming at the mouth with rage

[-] nameless_prole@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

"Landed gentry"... Because that's what I think about when I think about unpaid employees.

[-] chahk@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Step 1: open the sub.

Step 2: make every member a moderator.

Step 3: watch the world burn.

[-] Arystique@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

One subreddit did this IIRC

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[-] PotentiallyAnApricot@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Absolute garbage way to treat people. Foreshadowing for how reddit, and probably other places, plan to treat the communities they so love to claim credit for.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 1 year ago

Man Reddit is really trying to push a narrative of big bad mean mods, never mentioning they're unpaid and being ignored while doing a shitload of labor

[-] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Estimated $3.4 million dollars of free labor per year.

[-] shanghaibebop@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly, that’s probably an underestimate. 3.4m at 20/hr (so 15/hr plus overhead) with 2000 work hours in a year only comes out to ~84 full time employees.

I really doubt they can do what most of the mods do with 84 minimum wage (sf Bay Area) workers.

Even if you outsource, the amount of expertise in specific fields is very hard to find even with money.

[-] hightrix@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

That Google exec's comments along with the Apple showcase of Apollo must have reddit leadership shitting their pants.

So much for the protest having "no effect".

[-] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think prospects of going public via IPO were tanked when a tech giant like Google is publicly venturing opinions about the platform.

[-] lightninhopkins@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

The mods make the community. I have modded a few subs and it is a pain to do well, so I stopped doing it. I have definitely had issues with mods (who hasn't), but if large numbers of the good ones leave Reddit is screwed.

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think I've ever had any issues with a mod. I got mad at one back in the 90s on GameFAQs, but, in retrospect, they were completely in the right and were kind in their response to my complaint about their moderation.

I was banned from a sub for mass editing my comments, but that's totally fair; I had no idea it was spamming their mod queue.

Anyway, agreed. I have complete respect for the mods that make the online spaces I frequent safe.

[-] Unhappily_Coerced@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I deleted 9 years worth of user content, across 5 different reddit accounts. Followed by CCPA "Delete My Data" demands, on each account.

It's almost as if, a large majority of reddit users are spineless, or consider their useless internet clout points more valuable than a small sense of morality...

A temporary blackout is not a protest compared to this method.

For those wondering... TamperMonkey browser add-on with RedditHistorySanitizer userscript (https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/23605-reddit-history-sanitizer/code). It's kinda slow, but much faster than doing it manually!

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[-] Shhalahr@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Do it. Show your true colors, Reddit.

[-] VulcanSphere@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The sheer of panic in Snoo Platform, Inc. means that protest and blackout work.

IPO blackout looks even more good now.

[-] MoshBit@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

What's an IPO blackout?

[-] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I assume they mean go blackout again during Reddit's IPO/Initial Public Offering of Reddit stock in an attempt to tank the stock price.

[+] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

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[-] kuchaibee@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I hope more communities think of migrating to other places instead of staying on reddit. It's getting worse with each passing day.

[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'd like to kick Spez in the not stay privates.

[-] Scooter411@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Whoa! Negative 1 comments!

[-] doomkernel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

What app is that?

[-] Sharmat@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Memmy

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

The dumpster fire continues to burn. As Demi Lovato would say "Let it go, Let it go, can't hold it back anymore"

[-] kbity@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Looks like they're holding out big hopes for July 1st to be the platform's big resurgence, and that everything will calm down once they throw the switch on API access. Sure, let us know how that works out for you, Digg 5.0.

[-] OrangeCorvus@feddit.ro 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I'm being honest 1st of July will most likely be the last big splash and the last big grow for the alternative platforms. Afterwards I don't think the growth of Lemmy or similar platforms will be as big. Most of the mods will be silenced, subs opened and in 1-2 weeks it will be forgotten.

Reddit is way bigger than Digg was back then, has an impressive number of users so it's pretty hard to bring it to its knees. I hope I am wrong and that I am just pessimistic.

However I think the bad part for Reddit is that knowledgeable people and people you can hold a discussion with or to ask for help in different areas, are leaving/have left Reddit so the quality of posts will dilute.

[-] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It will definitely be a slow death. The sound of a few engaged users uniting in protest isn't what will scare Reddit. The sound that will scare them is the sound of many casual users going "Meh" when minimally-moderated subs plagued with spammers and repost bots finally bore the doom-scrolling zombies looking for a momentary dopamine rush from Tik-Tok videos and easily digestible memes.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

If the more engaged posters have moved over, do we really need the lurkers and mediocre posters to prop up the new discussion locations?

It was nice having everything in one place, but if everyone came over then it would just be the same thing on a new platform.

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[-] nameless_prole@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I can't speak for anyone else, but I haven't been back to reddit since the blackouts started. No desire to.

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[-] TwoGems@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Dumb Question but does any auto Reddit API thing also undo my upvotes/downvoted? trying to take all I can away from Reddit

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