Leopards Ate My Face

So don't be kind to people who need it because they could betray you later?

Sounds like Republican logic to me.

The reason to help people is because they need it, not because you need to get something from them.

These people have the right to upset and outraged that they were betrayed by a community that they supported.

But the logic being suggested here that they should have never offered helped because this was inevitable is not only cold and heartless but also xenophobic and discriminatory against Muslims.

You all sound like GOP voters.

Edit: Mocking people for showing compassion is a new low here. Your anger and hate is turning you into the people you deride. Take a long look in the mirror people.

Alan Turing invented computers and used them to crack Nazi encryption during WWII helping the Allies win the war. After the war ended, he was repayed by being jailed and chemically castrated for being gay. So, I guess things are improving?

Since people here seem confused by this post:

Helping a minority religious group and defending them against discrimination? Good.

Beleiving that religious fundamentalists will suddenly have progressive values and not immediately turn against the LGBTQ people who stood by them? Naive.

It's stupid not to be bigoted in a world where other people are.

An argument only someone invested in bigotry would make.

Stupid isn't a good word. Naive is better. You would think that after fighting to make a place more open that others would be appreciative, but unfortunately people don't work that way.

Fuck the religious.

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When I was growing up I (caucasian) for some reason had a couple cassette tapes of American First Nations folk tales. One has been looming in the back of my mind, mostly with regard to personal relationships, but it seems relevant in politics and so many other areas of life.

Paraphrased version in my natural tone goes something like this:

A young person is preparing to wade across a river when they notice a rattlesnake on the same bank. The snake seems to be giving an indication that it wishes to cross the river, so the child approaches the snake and asks if it wants a lift, because they were raised to treat all living beings with kindness. The snake looks over the child as if to say "you sure, human? I mean, that's nice and all, but I am a rattlesnake. Didn't you ever learn to leave us alone?"
The child persists, saying "well yes, I can see and hear that you are a rattlesnake, but I was raised to treat all beings with kindness, and this river is deep and fast. If you try cross it alone, you'll be swept away. But I have long legs and steady feet, and hands to carry you with, and I have eyes to see that you need help if you wish to cross the river. So I offer you this aid, which I can provide in this moment, and ask for no payment, only that you do not bite me as we cross."
The snake pauses, looks the kid over again, then relaxes its coils and stills its rattle. The child picks up the snake, and begins to wade across the river. As they cross, the child speaks to the snake, saying "remember this kindness, snake. The next time you or your children see a human, remember that we helped you cross this river, and let us pass in peace. We don't eat rattlesnakes, and rattlesnakes don't eat humans, we need not engage in conflict in the future."
The snake remains quiet and still until the child finishes crossing the river, at which point the snake rears back, tenses, and strikes the child in the throat. The child instantly collapses, the snake's venom coursing through their veins, swiftly poisoning their heart and brains. With their dying breath, the child turns tear-filled eyes to the snake as if to ask "why? Why would you kill me after I helped you cross the river? Why, after an expression of kindness and an offer of assistance, with no expectation of payment beyond decency in return, would you betray my trust?"
The snake replies, "because I'm a fucking rattlesnake you naive twit, what did you think was going to happen?" The snake leaves and the child dies.

Remember, snakes are snakes, and humans are humans, which makes it all the more disappointing when humans act like snakes (and also when snakes don't act like humans)