Ah, I remember when I thought voting third party would matter. Hey kids. Take it from someone who voted for Johnson in 2016. I get that voting strategically fucking sucks, and you want to make your voice heard, but it is not worth getting Donald Trump elected just to be part of the 3% that said "I don't like either of these people." With any luck, third parties won't give the presidency to republicans next year, and one or two supreme court justices will die or retire in the next five years, allowing us to start repairing our rights. Because justices nominated by Biden will suck, but justices nominated by Trump (or God forbid, Desantis) will suck in the same ways and much, much worse.

For everyone arguing about the validity of voting for a third party: contact your representatives and push them to support ranked choice voting initiatives. Maine and Alaska already have some form of RCV. RCV in the US

If a third party is enough to spoil your election, you should probably run a better candidate instead of complaining about it.

No Labels? Isn't that Andrew Yang's deal?

In Arizona, 15,000 people is enough to swing an election.

In 2020 the final count was:

Biden - 1,672,143
Trump - 1,661,686

10,457 vote difference... but that belies the bigger picture:

Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) - 1.5% - 51,465
Howie Hawkins (Write-in) - 0.0% - 1,557
Jade Simmons (Write-in) - 0.0% - 236
Gloria La Riva (Write-in) - 0.0% - 190
Daniel Clyde Cummings (Write-in) - 0.0% - 36
President Boddie (Unaffiliated) - 0.0% - 13

I think it's less likely that a 3rd party would draw from Biden or Trump and more likely they'd draw from the other fringe candidates, esp. the Libertarians.

Really wish the Democratic establishment would start treating centrist "Democrats", who actually do get Republicans elected, as antagonistically as they do progressives. The people who jump in with "both sides" when one side is getting massively worse aren't committed to centrism, they're laundering conservatism and/or trying to blunt the damage from their party's extremism. No Labels has been a transparent Republican op from the start.

If the Democrats are worried maybe run a candidate that isn't 100 and make changes that matter. If both parties are right of center there's gonna have to be a new one that's left

That sounds like a Biden problem. Dems need to decide if they really want to keep Republicans out or try to make sure their side wins. If it's to keep Republicans out they need to all vote 3rd party because most of us won't support your milquetoast conservatives again.

If it's to make sure their party wins, they are gonna lose.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

PHOENIX (AP) — More than 15,000 people in Arizona have registered to join a new political party floating a possible bipartisan “unity ticket” against Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

The very existence of the No Labels group is fanning Democratic anxiety about Trump’s chances against an incumbent president facing questions about his age and record.

Fontes has not commented publicly but is expected to announce a decision in the coming weeks after telling No Labels he may take action against the group for failing to register under the state’s campaign finance law.

“It’s kind of like a performance art piece,” said Richard Grayson, who promptly after switching to No Labels endorsed Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.

But supporters of No Labels insist that the political climate is far different heading into 2024, with wide swaths of voters in both parties exhausted by years of turmoil and chaos in Washington.

About half of registrants in August were formerly independent and another quarter were newly registered, according to Sam Almy, a Democratic data analyst based in Phoenix.

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