The Starvation Army has always been a deeply right wing kkkristian cult
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words from the linked track (but it's worth listening to if you can)
Joe Hill wrote a song for the free speech fight of uh, 1910, and it was introduced on the streets of Spokane by Haywire MacMclintok - him what, he was a branch secretary then. He wrote "Big Rock Candy Mountain" and "Hallelujah, I'm a Bum"
He got together a little band, T-Bone Slim and a tuba, a garbage can lid, and they stood in a doorway waiting to leap out at the unemployed throng and regale them with song
They used a shill to build a crowd -- you know a carny shill, somebody that uses tricks to build a crowd. His name was [Tresker?]. He wore a black suit, black bowler hat, and a string tie with an umbrella and a briefcase, lookedlike a banker. He'd walk down to where they were hiding in the doorway, and suddenly he'd start to yell: "Help, help, help, I've been robbed, help, I've been robbed!"
Everybody would run across the street, "What's the matter, what's the matter?". As soon as he got the crowd together he'd yell, "I've been robbed by the capitalist system, fellow workers!"
He'd talk to 'em for 10 minutes and then the boys would leap out and start singing, and this is what they were singing:
[Chorus] You will eat (You will eat) By and by (By and by) In that glorious land in the sky (Way up high) Work and pray (Work and pray) Live on hay (Live on hay) You'll get pie in the sky when you die (That's a lie) [Verse 1] Oh, long-haired preachers come out every night Try to tell you what's wrong and what's right But when asked about something to eat They will answer in voices so sweet: [Chorus] You will eat (You will eat) By and by (By and by) In that glorious land in the sky (Way up high) Work and pray (Work and pray) Live on hay (Live on hay) You'll get pie in the sky when you die (That's a lie) [Verse 2] The starvation army, they play And they shout and they clap and they pray When they've get all your coins on the drum They will tell you when you're on the bum [Chorus] You will eat (You will eat) By and by (By and by) In that glorious land in the sky (In the sky) Work and pray (Work and pray) Live on hay (Live on hay) You'll get pie in the sky when you die (That's a lie) [Verse 3] Holy Rollers and jumpers come out And they roll and they jump and they shout Give your money to Jesus, they say And you'll eat on that glorious day [Chorus] You will eat (You will eat) Bye and bye (By and by) In that glorious land in the sky (In the sky) Work and pray (Work and pray) Live on hay (live on hay) You'll get pie in the sky when you die (That's a lie) [Verse 4] Workingmen of all countries unite Side by side we for freedom shall fight When this world and its wealth we have gained To the grafters we'll sing this refrain [Chorus] You will eat (You will eat) By and by (By and by) When you've learned how to cook and to fry Chop some wood (Chop some wood) It'll do you good (Do you good) And you'll eat in the sweet by and by (That's no lie)
I can't remember which album it's on but Phillips talks more about the specific role the starvation army assigned itself in fighting on the side of the state and capitalists in the early 20th century. Their bands would show up to disrupt public meetings by playing over the speakers. And they were rewarded with special rights to occupy public spaces. Now, their stupid shitty religion gets mega funding diverted from the public to run all kinds of "charity" projects. I don't know if I've ever seen any deep investigations into the financials/relationships of this group. They fly somewhat under the radar compared to other cults with so much power and wealth. But for sure they got their greasy fingers into all kinds of things.
I find it so wild how people are surprised that the starvation army is a nefarious organization. Like it's an act of civil disobedience not to respect their stupid santas. Hello, anytime you have christianity ("salvation") even gesturing towards militancy ("army") you can know you you are dealing with some fucked up shit. Of course they hate LGBT people, that aint even the half of it, or 10%.
GOOD post
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Logged in to call them Starvation Army but buckykat beat me to it. So I'll just say,
how come Illinois State Police is out enforcing against anti-ICE protestors? I thought Gov Pritzker supported the people against the current day Gestapo?
I thought Gov Pritzker supported the people* against the current day Gestapo?
*The public support tier only includes online posts and media statements. Furthermore - the public support tier has no upgrade functionality.
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An example - ICE, etc are clearly breaking Illinois law because some of their vans have no license plates. As far as I know - Governor Billionaire hasn't done a single fucking thing about that or any other illegal activity done by the feds in his state. He talks a lot in public though and he even uses words like "authoritarian".
“I want to go,” I said to a couple of waking men near me.
“Got ter sty fer the service,” was the answer.
“Do you want to stay?” I asked.
They shook their heads.
“Then let us go and tell them we want to get out,” I continued. “Come on.”
But the poor creatures were aghast. So I left them to their fate, and went up to the nearest Salvation Army man.
“I want to go,” I said. “I came here for breakfast in order that I might be in shape to look for work. I didn’t think it would take so long to get breakfast. I think I have a chance for work in Stepney, and the sooner I start, the better chance I’ll have of getting it.”
He was really a good fellow, though he was startled by my request. “Wy,” he said, “we’re goin’ to ’old services, and you’d better sty.”
“But that will spoil my chances for work,” I urged. “And work is the most important thing for me just now.”
As he was only a private, he referred me to the adjutant, and to the adjutant I repeated my reasons for wishing to go, and politely requested that he let me go.
“But it cawn’t be done,” he said, waxing virtuously indignant at such ingratitude. “The idea!” he snorted. “The idea!”
“Do you mean to say that I can’t get out of here?” I demanded. “That you will keep me here against my will?”
“Yes,” he snorted.
I do not know what might have happened, for I was waxing indignant myself; but the “congregation” had “piped” the situation, and he drew me over to a corner of the room, and then into another room. Here he again demanded my reasons for wishing to go.
“I want to go,” I said, “because I wish to look for work over in Stepney, and every hour lessens my chance of finding work. It is now twenty-five minutes to twelve. I did not think when I came in that it would take so long to get a breakfast.”
“You ’ave business, eh?” he sneered. “A man of business you are, eh? Then wot did you come ’ere for?”
“I was out all night, and I needed a breakfast in order to strengthen me to find work. That is why I came here.”
“A nice thing to do,” he went on in the same sneering manner. “A man with business shouldn’t come ’ere. You’ve tyken some poor man’s breakfast ’ere this morning, that’s wot you’ve done.”
Which was a lie, for every mother’s son of us had come in.
Now I submit, was this Christian-like, or even honest?—after I had plainly stated that I was homeless and hungry, and that I wished to look for work, for him to call my looking for work “business,” to call me therefore a business man, and to draw the corollary that a man of business, and well off, did not require a charity breakfast, and that by taking a charity breakfast I had robbed some hungry waif who was not a man of business.
I kept my temper, but I went over the facts again, and clearly and concisely demonstrated to him how unjust he was and how he had perverted the facts. As I manifested no signs of backing down (and I am sure my eyes were beginning to snap), he led me to the rear of the building where, in an open court, stood a tent. In the same sneering tone he informed a couple of privates standing there that “’ere is a fellow that ’as business an’ ’e wants to go before services.”
Jack London, The People of the Abyss. https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/1688/pg1688-images.html#chap11
There is a salvation army shelter thing in my town, you buy crack in front of it. Pretty sure it's only that. No one stays there for the most part, cause there's a bunch of people selling and buying crack right outside and it's easy to get robbed. One time a dude was lighting a cigarette at the same time someone else was bear macing a guy and it became a giant fireball. They dont seem to be doing a good job at what they're ostensibly around to do either.
overall they do feed a lot of homeless folks and provide resources that otherwise would not exist for folks who are unhoused or otherwise unable to find employment