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[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 41 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

So regardless of the fact that it's about an optical connector here, and hence completely nonsensical, gold is actually a worse conductor of electricity than copper or silver. The point of gold plated connectors is not so much to improve the immediate audio quality, but to prevent oxidation of the connector over time, which can degrade quality and lead to bad contact. Gold is a noble metal, so doesn't oxidize. I would think most audiophiles know this?

I used to have to replace the cable of my electric guitar every few years because the sound would get crackly or drop out intermittently, I eventually got one with gold plated 6.35mm plug and I'm still using that same cable 15 years later.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago

You are correct; the point of gold plated contacts is anti-corrosion and long service life not for absolute highest conductivity.

I'm a ham radio operator; I have some silver-plated antenna connectors, because antenna feedlines are dealing with extremely weak signals on receive, so any loss you can eliminate in the connector the better. Problem is they corrode to hell everywhere they aren't tightly screwed together. For consumer AV equipment the signals are basically never weak enough to bother with that.

I would think most audiophiles know this?

They're not marketing to audiophiles. They're marketing to dudes and dads. They aren't trying to get the guy hooking a manual turntable up to a tube amplifier, they're trying to get the guy attaching a PS5 to an LG TV to a Sonos soundbar. They're going for the guy who is spending middle class money on AV equipment without bothering to understand it.

Wish I'd thought of it.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I wonder if, in the 15 years of not buying the cheap cables, you managed to come close to saving what you paid for that ten cents of gold plating.

Did you consider the soft factor of convenience? That has value too

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I have no idea, and I don't particularly care either, it's not like it was some wildly expensive cable (though I don't remember the price) ... I just know that I saved myself a whole lot of inconvenience.

Which is a form of value in itself

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Toslink is optical, right?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago

And I think the gold and silver parts are usually just plastic.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I miss when being an audiophile was just using vintage equipment and/or opting for lossless formats over compressed mp3s.

Gold plated connections have a point, it prevents corrosion extending the life of the cable. Whether you think it worth that price is another thing entirely.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There's always been a group of audiophiles with more money than sense. To the point that "audiophile" almost feels like an insult to me, and I'm a man who...well...loves his audio. They should have a word for that.

[–] DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago

Audio enthusiast

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I have no idea what the fuck this meme is about. I gather from the comments it's something to do with audio stuff? Why is this cable bad? What the fuck is it even supposed to be? I'm so confused

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

The cable is fiber optic, which is to say light. Light don't care about gold and silver. The highly polished lens bit is probably also bullshit, but at least light cares about lenses.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The gold isn't there to conduct anything, it's there to prevent corrosion, gold doesn't rust or tarnish.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 44 minutes ago

Neither does the plastic that these cables normally are made of.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

More generally, it’s not that cables are bad, it’s that audiophiles have way more money than sense. I’m not exaggerating when i say that I’ve seen short speaker cables sell for £6,000. Anything more than £5 will be of exactly the same quality as the £5 cable. You could maybe argue me up to £15-20.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 37 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Audiophiles are the stupidest conceited fools who have ever been parted from their money.

Don't forget your Audiophile grade cat5e cables for your NAS! Plug them in the right way though so the arrows point away from the NAS!

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Unidirectional cables are very silly. I fixed a 300 foot unidirectional HDMI installed backwards during construction. I had to army crawl over ductwork.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 42 minutes ago

For HDMI this is common with active optical cables.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I can imagine directional active cables, but not passive ones.

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Directional cables kind of make sense in an analogue, single-ended connection if it’s about the shielding being connected to ground only on one side… although I haven’t tried it in practice. Still, it has nothing to do with signal directionality, just noise rejection. The ground lift switch on some devices does the same.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

The one good use of Monster cables I saw was a buddy who played guitar and was pretty energetic in his sets and not disciplined enough to take proper care of his cables.

Monster cables really were pretty tough compared to the cheap stuff, but the bigger deal was the lifetime free replacements. He bought 2 Monster cables for 1/4 cable to his amp, and when one broke he'd swap to the backup while waiting on the replacement in the mail.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 16 hours ago

Abs is a type of plastic, ergo an insulator.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 145 points 1 day ago (8 children)

My favorite story along these lines...

Someone compared Monster cables to un-bent coat hangers.

https://gizmodo.com/audiophile-deathmatch-monster-cables-vs-a-coat-hanger-363154

"Seven songs were played while the group was blindfolded and the cables swapped back and forth. Not only “after 5 tests, none could determine which was the Monster 1000 cable or the coat hanger wire,” but no one knew a coat hanger was used in the first place."

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 2 points 14 hours ago

But do coat hangers hold up to repeated use ?

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 19 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is a classic.

A few years back in a HiFi - fair there was a seller who pushed these fist sized wooden blocks that were meant to raise the cables off the ground and therefore "prevent the Earth itself from tampering with the signal".

So he was basically trying to sell very expensive magic wood.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Earth: look at my mighty magnetic field that pushes back the very radiation of the sun!

Wooden block: hold my beer

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's a classic and I am glad it see it passed around again. The best part is the people that start delving into the snake oil absurdity that is "audiophile cables" before, you know, getting better actual speakers/headphones. Like for fucks sake, your $200 fancy cable isn't going to make your bullshit bargain bookshelf speaker into the voice of god. Just get some half way decent equipment and listen to your actual music.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I worked at a big box electronics store back in the day. Problem was we only sold two kinds of cables.

1 - shitty cables with the ends crimped on that will fall off after three uses.

2 - way overpriced gold plated cables that cost 10x or more.

I'd love it if we sold something in-between, but you absolutely could tell the difference between those options. Mostly cause the RCA ends didn't make an actual decent connection to the equipment, so it wiggled around and induced static into the signal.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago

I am sure it was no coincidence that those were the two options. I fell into that trap when I was a teen and had my first stereo. I had to buy some cables I couldn't really afford because they literally didn't offer RCA cables longer than 6' in the other brand.

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I have friends that are hardcore record collectors of obscure 70s punk, power pop, glam, etc. They have Marantz receivers and top of the line turntables, setups that approach like 10 grand. Then they listen to some of the most poorly recorded, cheaply pressed vinyl you can imagine.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Um you mean greatest music ever made vinyl SIR. The hiss and pop is part of the experience!

Seriously though, I love old punk records, especially when you can find self pressed shit from the 70s. Yea the quality sucks but god damn I’d rather hear that than overproduced, built by focus group crap today /rant

[–] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 4 points 17 hours ago

Tbf. many Marantz receivers sound fucking awesome. Although mine's from the 90s and cost me ~80€. Still blows anything I compare it to out of the water. A modern 1000€ Bluesound Powernode I used to have sounded anaemic in comparison. As a collector of obscure punk and prog vinyl I think it sounds best on a Frankensteined together system with some character that allows you to crank it loud.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago

Makes sense, I like vinyls for the deliberate retro experience of putting on the record and listening, but I have never agreed that they actually sound better. When CDs became mainstream I was personally thrilled.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I admit there's a part of me that wants a custom turntable, but you know what? I spent enough on what I've got. The whole system was just a few hundred bucks, and it sounds, plays, and looks perfectly fine for me. I'll never spend that much on an audio system. I'll just keep sinking stupid money into just records.

I should stop.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yup, there is a lot of snake oil in the audiophile world. The worst instance I saw was someone posting about an intermittent buzz in their system. Multiple people were recommending a full rebuild, (which would cost thousands of dollars). From what they described, it was pretty obvious that OP just needed a ~10¢ ferrite bead on a power cable, to make it stop acting as an antenna.

I was like “okay, you could try rebuilding your entire system like everyone else is suggesting… But maybe start with a ferrite bead. Here is a link for a multipack on Amazon. Worst case scenario, you’re only out like $5. And even if it doesn’t fix this specific case, the multipack is handy to have around anyways, because manufacturers often cheap out and skip adding them when their devices really do need them.” Like three days later, I got a “holy shit this actually worked. You just saved me thousands of dollars (and a ton of time) on a complete rebuild.”

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

Classic issue and I am a bit shocked they hadn't run into it before, I had figured that out when i was a teen with my first stereo setup. I am also not surprised at all that they were recommended to fully rebuild lmao

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious about other cases where ferrites are actually useful. I have done some access point installations where I was required to loop a patch cable through a ferrite for each. The majority of APs I install don't get this treatment. Is it bullshit? I assumed it was, but of course I used them anyway.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Was this in a radio station (or was someone nearby acting as a radio operator, like a police station or dispatch center), by chance? Or maybe in a lab setting where they may have gear that is affected by interference? They tend to be picky about RF interference, and Ethernet can be fairly noisy on certain RF bands. In that case, the ferrite bead was likely to do the exact opposite; They wanted to stop the Ethernet cables from acting as an antenna and broadcasting RF interference.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago

Yes, all the ones I've installed that required ferrites were in hospitals or clinics.

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